MORE THAN ONE MARRIAGE CEREMONY/IS THIS POSSIBLE

[JenB]

Thanks Gadget.

My thinking was that Old-fashioned-girl said that the marriage date was ‘confirmed’ by the three Scottish birth certificates, implying that she had actually found details of the marriage itself   

[Gadget]

OFG said

 'This was confirmed on Catherines birth certificate.'

The clip that I attached was from the birth certificate on SP.   

I don't see it as confirmation, only that that was what Martha told the registrar.

[Gadget]

The entry of parents on the 1874 birth  cert.

[Gadget]

Martha's maiden surname is Aspin.

[Gadget]

I think the reason that the couple married in 1908 maybe because of the introuction of Old Age Pensions:

Historically, the "Old Age Pension" was introduced in 1909 in the United Kingdom (which included all of Ireland at that time). Following the passage of the Old-Age Pensions Act 1908 a pension of 5 shillings per week (25p, equivalent, using the Consumer Price Index, to £28 in present-day terms),[2] or 7s.6d per week (equivalent to £42/week today) for a married couple, was payable to persons with an income below £21 per annum (equivalent to £2300 today), The qualifying age was 70, and the pensions were subject to a means test

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pensions_in_the_United_Kingdom


I've come across this as a reason for marriage a good while ago and can't find the reference at the moment.

[Tickettyboo]

I think the reason that the couple married in 1908 maybe because of the introuction of Old Age Pensions:

Historically, the "Old Age Pension" was introduced in 1909 in the United Kingdom (which included all of Ireland at that time). Following the passage of the Old-Age Pensions Act 1908 a pension of 5 shillings per week (25p, equivalent, using the Consumer Price Index, to £28 in present-day terms),[2] or 7s.6d per week (equivalent to £42/week today) for a married couple, was payable to persons with an income below £21 per annum (equivalent to £2300 today), The qualifying age was 70, and the pensions were subject to a means test

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pensions_in_the_United_Kingdom


I've come across this as a reason for marriage a good while ago and can't find the reference at the moment.

I'd agree that this seems like a probable explanation. However, given that the man was working within the life insurance business, he'd know how to go about getting a copy marriage cert so I am still veering towards the conclusion that there was no previous 'formal, registered marriage' back in 1873.
Which makes me (still) wonder if either of the parties were not free to marry in 1873.
Not my family, so this doesn't bother me at all, but  if it 'was' my family I still be looking for something to explain it all.

Boo

[Rosinish]

"Thanks for your PM with the information."

I don't see a need to PM anyone unless it's a secret?
That record of birth was available for you to download from SP to find the info. as to if/when/where they were married.
There are many people on RC with knowledge of different records who may have been willing to help on the open forum.

"they were married on 15th June 1873 in Preston. This was confirmed on Catherines birth certificate.
She was born on 11th May 1874 in *****hills ? Annan, Dumfriesshire and I think her fathers occupation reads 'power loom weaver'"

Preston, Berwickshire or Preston, Lancashire?
There's no record of a marriage in Scotland on the indexes...

However, there are records of Irregular Marriages which can be accessed via different archives/libraries etc. although possibly at a cost depending on who holds the record...

https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/files//research/irregular-border-and-scottish-runaway-marriages.pdf

Possibly Leadhills?

"This would tie in as in the 1861 census Arthur Kavanagh is 13 a cotton weaver living with his family in Blackburn."

Blackburn, Lancashire or Blackburn, West Lothian, Scotland?

"We are not allowed to post full images
Some of them are rather feint and hard to read"

You can 'Report an issue' (top right side of image) being difficult to decipher & request a better scan on SP site, they're very helpful & quick to respond.

Annie

[Gadget]

Annie - see my clips - MS is Aspin

Which makes me (still) wonder if either of the parties were not free to marry in 1873.
Not my family, so this doesn't bother me at all, but  if it 'was' my family I still be looking for something to explain it all.

Boo

So far, nothing at all for a marriage between them before 1908. I've used broad variations of names. I can't find a previous marriage for Martha either.  1911 shows that both were born Lancashire.

[JenB]

"they were married on 15th June 1873 in Preston. This was confirmed on Catherines birth certificate.
She was born on 11th May 1874 in *****hills ? Annan, Dumfriesshire and I think her fathers occupation reads 'power loom weaver'"

Preston, Berwickshire or Preston, Lancashire?
There's no record of a marriage in Scotland on the indexes

On the two snips supplied by Gadget (see replies 38 & 39) it simply says ‘Preston’.

"This would tie in as in the 1861 census Arthur Kavanagh is 13 a cotton weaver living with his family in Blackburn."

Blackburn, Lancashire or Blackburn, West Lothian, Scotland?

Blackburn Lancashire