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Re: MORE THAN ONE MARRIAGE CEREMONY/IS THIS POSSIBLE
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 23 July 22 08:06 BST (UK) »
If other children were born in England, then searching here would give thr mother’s maiden name.
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

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That doesn’t seem to be the problem though. Do you have your couple in the 1871 census?
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Re: MORE THAN ONE MARRIAGE CEREMONY/IS THIS POSSIBLE
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 23 July 22 12:50 BST (UK) »
I have a couple who married twice, admittedly only 1 day apart. The groom was RC & the bride CofE. The reason was the RC church did not recognise the couple as married so they had to have a ceremony where the bride had to use her birth surname although she had been married in a CofE church which made the marriage legal in the eyes of the state. (My couple actually had 2 certificates which were printed with the explanation in Family Tree magazine some years ago)

Maybe the second CofE marriage was to prove a marriage to obtain some legal benefit as the RC marriage alone would not have been recognised as legal in English law.

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Re: MORE THAN ONE MARRIAGE CEREMONY/IS THIS POSSIBLE
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 23 July 22 13:16 BST (UK) »
Hello Geraldine96

Have you looked up the Scottish birth on the Scotlandspeople site ?

Scottish birth certificates have the date and place of the parents marriage on them.

I’m happy to look it up for you if you post the details.
 
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Re: MORE THAN ONE MARRIAGE CEREMONY/IS THIS POSSIBLE
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 23 July 22 14:55 BST (UK) »
Geraldine

The early birth index’s do have the mothers maiden name on them, but you would have to search on the GRO website, as they were not available when first put on ancestry etc.

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Re: MORE THAN ONE MARRIAGE CEREMONY/IS THIS POSSIBLE
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 23 July 22 15:53 BST (UK) »
What is the exact info. given for the parents on the 1875 Scottish birth cert?
Does it give the mother as X Surname of husband, M S (maiden surname) Y
or
Does it give her name as X Y without the MS?

If they were married it should give date & place of the marriage.

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Re: MORE THAN ONE MARRIAGE CEREMONY/IS THIS POSSIBLE
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 24 July 22 23:03 BST (UK) »
tahnks heywood mvann rosinish oldfashionedgirl, ianscann, I turned to the gro index, scrolled through the relevant decades; I found 3 births that belong to the family I'm researching. Are there any other free bmd records I could check. The family lived in Blackburn, lancs. Nottingham and Sheffield.
 I'll see if I can locate the earlier marriage (probably took place in 1873), place -  Scotland. it's useful to know that the select birth cert in scotland should include a reference to their marriage, thanks for that info. I DO have the 1871 census that shows the spouse aged 20/9 (difficult to read his age as untidy lettering) but he's unmarried in 1871 - so earlier marriage took place between 1871 and 1874/5. geraldine96                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                         
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Re: MORE THAN ONE MARRIAGE CEREMONY/IS THIS POSSIBLE
« Reply #24 on: Monday 25 July 22 07:47 BST (UK) »
For Lancashire records try Lancs OPC

https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: MORE THAN ONE MARRIAGE CEREMONY/IS THIS POSSIBLE
« Reply #25 on: Monday 25 July 22 08:48 BST (UK) »
You say that the spouse (he) was unmarried in 1871 - what about the female?
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Re: MORE THAN ONE MARRIAGE CEREMONY/IS THIS POSSIBLE
« Reply #26 on: Monday 25 July 22 09:11 BST (UK) »
I have a g/uncle who married the same woman twice using different names for himself. The family name was changed before WW1 as it had German origins. He married in the parish church in 1932 claiming to be a bachelor (despite having been married before to someone who had died) to his spinster bride using his given name of Augustus Thiel. He then married her again in 1933 at the Registry Office using his changed name of Alexander Shiel and claiming to be a widower and his bride a spinster again. I have no idea why or how they got away with it.
Coomber, Scrimgeour, Shiel, Thiel,