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Offline Andrea Pea

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Re: Where is my great grandfather???
« Reply #45 on: Thursday 14 July 22 10:27 BST (UK) »
Neale1961.
Ok…3 newspaper articles over different 3 dates.
Only one got the spelling correct…but what was the ACTUAL date they arrived in Fremantle?
From that Moldavia shipping list you’ve seen ??
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/229690309
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/15435079
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/79856160

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Re: Where is my great grandfather???
« Reply #46 on: Thursday 14 July 22 10:27 BST (UK) »
On the second marriage, Joseph was a widower.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Where is my great grandfather???
« Reply #47 on: Thursday 14 July 22 10:30 BST (UK) »
Neale1961.
Ok…3 newspaper articles over different 3 dates.
Only one got the spelling correct…but what was the ACTUAL date they arrived in Fremantle?
From that Moldavia shipping list you’ve seen ??
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/229690309
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/15435079
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/79856160
21st July. The passenger list can be viewed on Ancestry.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Where is my great grandfather???
« Reply #48 on: Friday 15 July 22 00:34 BST (UK) »



Second marriage cert details
15/12/25 St Albans (church) Highgate Hill WA
Reg’d 6/1/1926
No mention of first marriage
No witnesses mentioned
Dorothy Grace Murray / hairdresser / spinster 28
Father John Beverley Murray deceased
Mother Amy cecelia Hummer deceased

That’s it!

Hi,
I feel concerned that this information is incomplete.
In my experience and according to legal requirements, this is the information which should appear on a Western Australian Marriage certificate.

MARRIAGE
 
 
Date
Couple's names
Couple's ages
Couple's birthplaces
Previous status
Couple's occupations
Couple's residences
Fathers' names
Fathers' occupations
Groom's mothers name

Where the information is not known or unavailable, there will be an entry to reflect that, such as, "Not Known" Rather than a blank space.

You have omitted all details of the bridegroom or his marital status, addresses, .
I would have thought a witness or 2 would be expected too.

However if that is all your document holds, then it is very odd!


Sue




Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


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Re: Where is my great grandfather???
« Reply #49 on: Friday 15 July 22 03:23 BST (UK) »
Another immigration possibility ......

Mr and Mrs Parkes (British)
- passengers on “MONGOLIA” from London to Sydney, arriving 16 November 1910
No other detail on passenger manifest.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Where is my great grandfather???
« Reply #50 on: Friday 15 July 22 03:36 BST (UK) »
Another immigration possibility ......

Mr and Mrs Parkes (British)
- passengers on “MONGOLIA” from London to Sydney, arriving 16 November 1910
No other detail on passenger manifest.

I’d discounted this one, as it has PARKES T. Of course, a T could easily be mistranscribed from a J.

https://marinersandships.com.au/1910/11/104mon.htm

The Moldavia also left Fremantle on the 21st. 2nd page, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article229688930

Jamjar
Atkinson; Badier; Cameron; Grant; Howie; Jardine; Jenkins; Kerr; Lawardorn; Lee; Linton; Lonie; McConnell; Morgan; Morrison; Murphy; O'Leary; Paton; Pratt; Robb; Williams

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« Reply #51 on: Friday 15 July 22 04:15 BST (UK) »
I’d discounted this one, as it has PARKES T. Of course, a T could easily be mistranscribed from a J.
https://marinersandships.com.au/1910/11/104mon.htm

Looking at the original passenger list (not a transcript) I cannot see letter “T”.
To me, it simply says Parkes,  Mr & Mrs. :)
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Where is my great grandfather???
« Reply #52 on: Friday 15 July 22 05:22 BST (UK) »


At reply #28

"Initially the BDM here in Perth couldn’t even find May on their system. But her death cert was posted out but there’s no helpful info on it."

Why was there a problem finding May?

WA BDM death
PARKES   May      F(emale)   died 1925      NORTHAM   189 /1925

At reply #25

"May was on a 1901 uk census but not on the next."

What are you seeing on the Census, 1901?....enough information please for others to locate it.

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Re: Where is my great grandfather???
« Reply #53 on: Friday 15 July 22 05:35 BST (UK) »

Looking at the original passenger list (not a transcript) I cannot see letter “T”.
To me, it simply says Parkes,  Mr & Mrs. :)


The Fremantle arrival has them as Mr G.A. PARKES and Mrs. PARKES.

Debra  :)