Where is my great grandfather???

[Andrea Pea]

Neale1961. I apologise and have contacted a moderator to amend Re birthdate for May.
I’ve been trolling thru masses of info for days so don’t even remember writing that…other than I’m tired. I have a month free on ancestry…and I’m using it!
I have info for May yes..but my entire post is about Joseph and looking for him. The shipping info you gave has been the best info so far. Seems there was a mr and Mrs Parker & infant who went to London…and also a mr and Mrs Parkes & infant who went to Fremantle in the trove newspaper info.
I’ve tried posting pics of cert info for you all…but it won’t let me.
May & Joseph married 17/9/1908 Birmingham, on my grandfathers birth cert.

[Andrea Pea]

Dobfarm. Yes it can very hard when info you know should be there but isn't. I’m just glad UK GRO don’t charge for info they can’t find. I just keep getting doors shut on me. Frustrating!

[Andrea Pea]

Wivenhoe. ETC
My grandfather John Frederick birth cert 1/8/1911 - Australia NSW
May (née Claridge) aged 29 - born Birmingham
Joseph Parkes aged 37 - born Birmingham - Grinder, Engineering works
Married 17th September 1908 Birmingham England

Joseph’s (2nd marriage) cert to Dorothy Murray. 15th December 1925
Joseph - 50 yrs - mechanic - birth Birmingham - widowed (date unknown recorded)
Parents - Phillip Parkes/Moulder/deceased & Phoebe (née Sanders)/deceased


May Parkes (née Claridge) born 1883 / death 15/9/25
Joseph Parkes                   born 1874?? / death 23/5/1931

[jaywit]

17th September 1908 was a Thursday, not a usual day for a wedding to take place.

[carol8353]

I draw your attention to the following shipping record:

August 1908 Ship “SOMERSET” - Mr. J Park (Engineer) departed Liverpool, arrived Sydney.
He may not have been travelling with May, if he was brought out by the government. She may have followed him later, and  / or she may have travelled under a different surname, if they were not married.

If Joseph left on a ship for Australia in Aug 1908 ,it's hardly likely he was back in Birmingham to be married on 17th Sept 1908.

I think they made that one up!

[wivenhoe]

Can you please list all  the information on the certificate.

My grandfather John Frederick birth cert 1/8/1911 - Australia NSW
May (née Claridge) aged 29 - born Birmingham
Joseph Parkes aged 37 - born Birmingham - Grinder, Engineering works
Married 17th September 1908 Birmingham England

Where and when was the birth registered.

What is the birth place....where was baby born.

Who is the informant.

Under a heading....previous issue....what do you see.

[wivenhoe]

Can you please list all the information on the certificate.

Joseph’s (2nd marriage) cert to Dorothy Murray. 15th December 1925
Joseph - 50 yrs - mechanic - birth Birmingham -
Parents - Phillip Parkes/Moulder/deceased & Phoebe (née Sanders)/deceased

Where were they married....church?...registry office?

Who are the witnesses?


Are there any addresses on the certificate?

What information do you see relating to the first marriage?

What information do you see for Dorothy Murray.  Can you list it please. All the information. Everything.

[Neale1961]

Seems there was a mr and Mrs Parker & infant who went to London…and also a mr and Mrs Parkes & infant who went to Fremantle in the trove newspaper info.

No you are confused about this. Please review the posts and especially read my reply #20.
There was no couple named Parker (newspaper error).
The Parkes disembarked in Fremantle, the ship continued on to London.

[Andrea Pea]

Wivenhoe
Birth registered 25/8/1911. Sydney
Witness - nurses from Women’s Hospital  Crown Street ??
Informant - May Parkes, 29 waterloo street (no suburb listed)


Second marriage cert details
15/12/25 St Albans (church) Highgate Hill WA
Reg’d 6/1/1926
No mention of first marriage
No witnesses mentioned
Dorothy Grace Murray / hairdresser / spinster 28
Father John Beverley Murray deceased
Mother Amy cecelia Hummer deceased

That’s it!