Contacting a family tree owner on Ancestry

[sandiep]

all the full certs I have sent for come as A4  size and PDF will easily print out A4

[ChrisAllonby]

A few days ago I received the birth certificate of Matthew Kennedy (as mentioned above by sandiep, it was A4, so easy to scan - maybe I should have just ordered the pdf) and I'm pleased to report that the date of birth was given as 27th September 1889, which is what I'd assumed, and hoped for. 'Devauden' gives this date on the 1939 register, and 27th September is also given on his death certificate, though the year is 1891. All records apart from the death cert (currently on order from GRO) point to 1889. So undoubtedly Devauden and Kennedy are one and the same person.

Interestingly, the place of birth on the birth certificate is given as 12 Bridge Street, Chepstow, and not Tiddenham, Glos as written by 'Devauden' in 1921. Tiddenham parish is just a few hundred yards across the River Wye from Chepstow. Indeed, Bridge Street, Chepstow leads across the river. Maybe 'Devauden' thought he was born in Tiddenham, given that his older - by 12 months - sibling has Tiddenham, then Tutshill listed in 1891 and 1901. Then again, perhaps he thought being an Englishman conferred some advantage over a Welshman? I suspect the birth certificate is correct and the 1921 census is wrong. Why would the mother when registering the birth give an incorrect location? Any thoughts on this would be most welcome, and thank-you for all the responses so far.

I think I now have enough information to commence writing an account of the enigmatic 'Mr Devauden'.

[Rosinish]

Without going through all the info. given, from memory, you have a 'source' of info. for the birth of Matthew Kennedy with 1st hand info. given by his mother...

Why would any parent whether mother/father have/feel a need to lie about where their child was born?

You don't give any info. on his fathers' details, occ. etc.

The little difference in info. on the census' isn't too much out especially as the places named seem to have bordered 2 areas.

Where was he said to be born on the 1901 census, who gave the info?

Quite often men have short memories/can't be bothered with the analytics & write what seems easiest at the time.

Who gave the info. in 1911?

I don't think men in general care too much about specifics i.e. near is 'near enough' 

Annie

[Gadget]

Quite often men have short memories/can't be bothered with the analytics & write what seems easiest at the time.

Who gave the info. in 1911?

I don't think men in general care too much about specifics i.e. near is 'near enough' 

Annie

Is this tongue in cheek ??

[coombs]

Quite often men have short memories/can't be bothered with the analytics & write what seems easiest at the time.

Who gave the info. in 1911?

I don't think men in general care too much about specifics i.e. near is 'near enough' 

Annie

Well tell that to the men who built civilisation. I hope it was a tongue in cheek comment, otherwise a bit of a misandrist remark.

[ChrisAllonby]

Quite often men have short memories/can't be bothered with the analytics & write what seems easiest at the time.

Who gave the info. in 1911?

I don't think men in general care too much about specifics i.e. near is 'near enough' 

Annie

Is this tongue in cheek ??

Tongue in cheek or not, there is some truth in what you say  and I'm a man. At the risk of being cancelled, men and women are very different. Men are better at some things than women, and vice versa. The two sexes have a different psychological make-up, and they are generally interested in different things - 'generally' being the operative word here. Anyway, enough of this; to the matter in hand:

Kennedy's birth cert gives 12 Bridge Street, Chepstow as his place of birth. The informant was his mother, who registered the birth 42 days after it took place. The father's occupation looks like 'Striker, Iron Foundry'. Incidentally, the address of PoB  is given as '..... Chepstow, WSD, Mon'. What might the 'WSD' be?

1891: PoB - Chepstow. However, PoB for elder sibling (older by just 12 months) is given as Tidenham

1901: PoB - Chepstow. Sibling - Tutshill (geographically almost the same as Tidenham)

1911: Now known as 'Devauden', PoB given as Leamington, I think in his own hand on the census return; undoubtedly a misrepresentation

1921: Devauden gives his PoB in his own hand as Tidenham, Glos

Death cert - currently on order

I also believe Chepstow to be his actual place of birth. Yes, why would the mother lie about this? The only thing I can think of could be that there was some sort of disadvantage to be born outside a particular parish, but I can't think what. Alternatively, maybe 'Devauden' didn't wish to be considered a Welshman, but this seems unlikely.

[Comberton]

maybe WSD

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanitary_district#England_and_Wales

[Gadget]

Tongue in cheek or not, there is some truth in what you say  and I'm a man. At the risk of being cancelled, men and women are very different. Men are better at some things than women, and vice versa. The two sexes have a different psychological make-up, and they are generally interested in different things

I'm not letting this go - give me some proof - i.e scientific research papers, etc.

[ChrisAllonby]

Tongue in cheek or not, there is some truth in what you say  and I'm a man. At the risk of being cancelled, men and women are very different. Men are better at some things than women, and vice versa. The two sexes have a different psychological make-up, and they are generally interested in different things

I'm not letting this go - give me some proof - i.e scientific research papers, etc.

I speak from life experience. I'm 67 years old, and believe me, what I say is correct. Some examples: men are better than women at anything that involves strength and stamina. Women are better than men at caring and educating. Women are more organised, and better organisers, than men, but men are better at strategy and seeing the bigger picture. I could go on, but I won't, save to say these observations are generalisations. Of course some men and some women are contrary to the above, but most aren't. Proof and research papers aren't needed here. We can all see it, but perhaps some cannot accept it?