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Frederick (Fred) Shepherd 185- - 1934; Balmain & Tingha NSW
« on: Sunday 03 July 22 06:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Rootchatters,

I am completely at a dead-end with this search and so I'm hoping someone can help, please.

Fred Shepherd was my g-grandfather and he is a bit of a mystery. I am not sure if he was born in London, on-board ship en-route to Australia, or in Sydney. I suspect he was born in the early 1850s.

I know he married Mary Leonard in Balmain in 1877. She died in 1886 and he left their 2 children in Balmain and went to the tin-mining town of Tingha. They never saw him again.

He then married Henrietta Hill there in 1899 and they had at least 2 children who survived.

The only other detail I can be sure of is that he died in the Tingha area in 1934. My grandfather was told in the late 1930s when he went looking for his father that Fred had lived alone near the Tingha racecourse and had worked as a labourer or a butcher.

I really want to know more about Fred, and the Tingha connection in his life. If anyone can help with his birth, that would be excellent. His parents were John Shepherd and Eliza/beth Ryman, married in 1852.

If anyone can help, I will be very grateful.

With thanks,
OzJen
Bennett (Aspley Guise & Luton, Beds); Elijah Bambridge (Burslem, Staff); Thomas Carr-Parkhurst boy (Loughrea, Gal'y); Dowle (Romney Marshes, Kent + London); Duffy (Trim, Meath); Joseph Kaye (Mirfield, W.Yks); Leonard (Meath); Mary Mulfahy/Fahy-famine orphan (Nenagh, Tipp'y); Elizabeth Hoskin (Illogan, Cornw); Wm Henry Pearce (Tucking Mill, Cornw, Burra, S.Aust); Ruddell (Kilmore, Armagh); Shepherd (Elstree, Herts); John/Clarissa Short (Bodmin, Cornw); Benjmn Thomas RN 1820s; Wright (Ballylisk).

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Re: Frederick (Fred) Shepherd 185- - 1934; Balmain & Tingha NSW
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 03 July 22 06:45 BST (UK) »
Do you have his death certificate?

21448/1934 SHEPHERD Frederick parents JOHN and ELIZABETH at TINGHA

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Re: Frederick (Fred) Shepherd 185- - 1934; Balmain & Tingha NSW
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 03 July 22 06:55 BST (UK) »
Folk’s marriage UK:

Dec 1852 Lambeth 1d 590
SHEPHERD John   
RYMAN Eliza

Marriage: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGZY-1P8T

SHEPPARD, MARY  ANN mmn RYMAN 
GRO Reference: 1856  D Quarter in FARINGDON  Volume 02C  Page 239

SHEPHERD, JOHN mmn RYMAN 
GRO Reference: 1858  D Quarter in CIRENCESTER  Volume 06A  Page 308

SHEPHERD, SARAH mmn RYMAN 
GRO Reference: 1861  J Quarter in CIRENCESTER  Volume 06A  Page 338

SHEPPARD, JOSEPH mmn RYMAN 
GRO Reference: 1864  M Quarter in CIRENCESTER  Volume 06A  Page 365

SHEPPERD, THOMAS  RYMAN mmn RYMAN 
GRO Reference: 1869  J Quarter in CIRENCESTER  Volume 06A  Page 346

SHEPPARD, HANNAH mmn RYMAN 
GRO Reference: 1871  J Quarter in CIRENCESTER  Volume 06A  Page 369

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Re: Frederick (Fred) Shepherd 185- - 1934; Balmain & Tingha NSW
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 03 July 22 07:19 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much for your fast response, Jamjar.

The marriage will be one in Dec 1852 in Lambeth.

I do have the death certificate. That's how I can be sure of the Tingha date in the story.

Regards,
OzJen
Bennett (Aspley Guise & Luton, Beds); Elijah Bambridge (Burslem, Staff); Thomas Carr-Parkhurst boy (Loughrea, Gal'y); Dowle (Romney Marshes, Kent + London); Duffy (Trim, Meath); Joseph Kaye (Mirfield, W.Yks); Leonard (Meath); Mary Mulfahy/Fahy-famine orphan (Nenagh, Tipp'y); Elizabeth Hoskin (Illogan, Cornw); Wm Henry Pearce (Tucking Mill, Cornw, Burra, S.Aust); Ruddell (Kilmore, Armagh); Shepherd (Elstree, Herts); John/Clarissa Short (Bodmin, Cornw); Benjmn Thomas RN 1820s; Wright (Ballylisk).


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Re: Frederick (Fred) Shepherd 185- - 1934; Balmain & Tingha NSW
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 03 July 22 07:29 BST (UK) »
Not sure about those Cirencester births.

Name:   Thomas Ryman Sheppard
Event Type:   Baptism
Baptism Date:   16 May 1869
Baptism Place:   Kempsford, Gloucestershire, England
Parish as it Appears:   Kempsford
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Father:   Joseph Sheppard
Mother:   Harriett Sheppard


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Re: Frederick (Fred) Shepherd 185- - 1934; Balmain & Tingha NSW
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 03 July 22 07:35 BST (UK) »
Not sure about those Cirencester births.

Name:   Thomas Ryman Sheppard
Event Type:   Baptism
Baptism Date:   16 May 1869
Baptism Place:   Kempsford, Gloucestershire, England
Parish as it Appears:   Kempsford
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Father:   Joseph Sheppard
Mother:   Harriett Sheppard


Yes they married in FARRINGDON, so all those births are probably theirs.  :(

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Re: Frederick (Fred) Shepherd 185- - 1934; Balmain & Tingha NSW
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 03 July 22 07:37 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much for your fast response, Jamjar.

The marriage will be one in Dec 1852 in Lambeth.

I do have the death certificate. That's how I can be sure of the Tingha date in the story.

Regards,
OzJen

What is all the information from the death certificate and his marriage certificates.

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Re: Frederick (Fred) Shepherd 185- - 1934; Balmain & Tingha NSW
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 03 July 22 07:54 BST (UK) »
Sydney Morning Herald 12 Sep 1885 p 11
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13598044?
At the BALMAIN POLICE COURT.......Mary Shepherd, wife of Frederick
Shepherd, of Waterloo-street, Balmain........sell to or supply her husband with any liquor for
the space of a year....

Sydney Morning Herald 15 Oct 1877
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/28395961?
THE FRIENDS of FREDERICK SHEPHERD are invited to attend the Funeral of his late FATHER-
IN-LAW, Walter Leonard, THIS (Monday) AFTERNOON ; to move from his late residence, Waterloo-street, Balmain, at half-past 2 o'clock, to the Catholic Cemetery, Balmain. T. DIXON, Undertaker, 21, Oxford-street.

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Re: Frederick (Fred) Shepherd 185- - 1934; Balmain & Tingha NSW
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 03 July 22 08:12 BST (UK) »
Folk’s marriage UK:

Dec 1852 Lambeth 1d 590
SHEPHERD John   
RYMAN Eliza
On this marriage record, John is a butcher; his father JOhn (labourer)
Eliza’s father is Benjamin (farmer)

On 15 Jan 1866 in Balmain, John Shepherd a butcher died. Age 39.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/188018181/john-shepherd
Death notice

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/63242257?searchTerm=

Note added - the name RYMAN also appears as RYMAL / RIMAL on some English records.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
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