Looking for STOPS in Marylebone/Pancras 1841/51

[millflower]

Can anyone please help trace this family in 1841/51. They are shown in the 1861 census living in Wells Street Marylebone. Parents John and Hannah were born 1817/1818 respectively in Thame, their 5 children all born in Marylebone. I am also looking for a possible Dormer connection as the second son John (b 1849) later adopted the second name Dormer, referring to himself as John Dormer Stopps (2 x p's). Any help would be appreciated.

[Biker]

Hi

I'm doing a bit of housekeeping and wondering whether you're still looking for this information or found in the meantime?  If you're still looking, do you have any further information that might help locate it?

If I don't hear from you in a while I'll move this to 'Completed' assuming the information is no longer required.

Regards
Biker

[millflower]

Thanks for this - I am still searching for information on this family but have no further details at this stage. Please leave the request live for the time being please.

Many thanks

[Biker]

Hello

Was just checking you were still looking before having a scout for them 

How about these 1851

29 Wells St, Marylebone
John Stops 30 Groom b. Oxfordshire Thame
Mary wife 30 b. ditto
William Albert? 3 b. Marylebone
John 1 b. ditto

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Regards
Biker

[millflower]

Thanks Biker

That's very useful. In the 1861 Census this family is living at 29 Wells Street with another family, headed by Hannah Stops (widow) born Middlesex. I feel sure that she is the sister-in-law of John Stops. Would you please be kind enough to check for her in 1851?

Thank you again.

[Biker]

Hi

In 1851 she is living at 58 Wells St Marylebone.  She is 45 and a widow born Sussex Brighton living with her children.

Regards
Biker

[millflower]

Thanks Biker, that's really helpful.

The son of John Stops, John Stops junior (b c1850) last appears with his family in the 1861 census  aged 11. He then disappears from the radar altogether until he appears on the 1891 census  as John Dormer Stopps. Have you any suggestions how I can track him over thios 30 year gap, please?

[cissellby]

Hi Millflower,
                    Is Biker's 1851 census correct, if so, I will start looking for John and Mary, and not Hannah.

Cissellby.

[millflower]

Hi Cissellby
Yes Biker's first 1851 report re John & Mary Stops is the right one. Their son, John Stops junior is my great grandfather who in the 30 missing years acquired a rather posh sounding double-barrel, adding Dormer to his name as well as an extra 'p' in Stopps.

Despite the ambitious surname, John Dormer Stopps sadly finished his days in St Pancras Workhouse in 1927.

Hanna was, I think, his aunt.

thanks and regards

Millflower