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Patersons of St Ninians Stirling
« on: Monday 05 September 05 07:44 BST (UK) »
My Patersons are Robert Paterson and Helen Turnbul who married at St Ninians. Their son married Robert married Cartherine Shaw in 1824 in Denny. Their son Alexander, married Catherine Dawson in 1852 and emigrated to Auistralia the same year and lived near Ballarat Victoria. Catherine Dawson's parents were Elizabeth Ferguson and John Dawson. That is about all I have. Is someone else following this line. I would love to share info and trace this line back further
Regards Keera
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Middlemiss,(Berwick on Tweed Blackford Scotland)
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Parker & Page (Attleborough Northumberland)
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Re: Patersons of St Ninians Stirling
« Reply #1 on: Monday 05 September 05 12:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Keera,

I couldn't find your Robert Paterson who married a Catherine Shaw, but I did find a Robert Paterson who married a Janet Shaw and according to the British Vital Records, they only had one child. (They may well have had more but this is the only one recorded to this couple):

PATERSON, Janet
Gender:   Female
Birth Date: 3 Sep 1826   
Christening Date: 17 Sep 1826
Recorded in: Denny, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father:   Robert PATERSON
Mother:   Janet SHAW
Source:   FHL Film 1041975   Dates:   1679 - 1855

The date of Alexander's marriage to Catherine Dawson - are you sure this was 28 years after his brother Robert's marriage?

Here's a list of all the births to Robert and Helen just in case you haven't got them already:

PATERSON, Thomas
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 25 May 1783
Recorded in:   St. Ninians, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father: Robert PATERSON
Mother: Helen TURNBUL
Source: FHL Film 1041956   Dates:   1688 – 1819

PATERSON, Robert
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 13 Mar 1785
Recorded in:   St. Ninians, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father: Robert PATERSON
Mother: Helen TURNBUL
Source: FHL Film 1041956   Dates:   1688 – 1819

PATERSON, Helen
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 7 Feb 1787
Recorded in: St. Ninians, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father: Robert PATERSON
Mother: Helen TURNBUL
Source: FHL Film 1041956   Dates:   1688 – 1819

PATERSON, Christian
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 23 May 1790
Recorded in: St. Ninians, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father: Robert PATERSON
Mother: Helen TURNBULL
Source: FHL Film 1041956   Dates:   1688 – 1819

PATERSON, Lily
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 6 May 1793
Recorded in: St. Ninians, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father: Robert PATERSON
Mother: Helen TURNBULL
Source: FHL Film 1041956   Dates:   1688 – 1819

PATERSON, James
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 26 Oct 1795   Recorded in:   St. Ninians, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father: Robert PATERSON
Mother: Helen TURNBULL
Source: FHL Film 1041956   Dates:   1688 – 1819

PATERSON, Margaret
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 30 Oct 1797
Recorded in: St. Ninians, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father: Robert PATERSON
Mother: Helen TURNBULL
Source: FHL Film 1041956   Dates:   1688 – 1819

PATERSON, Janet
Gender: Female
Christening Date: Jan 1799
Recorded in: St. Ninians, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father: Robert PATERSON
Mother: Helen TURNBULL
Source: FHL Film 1041956   Dates:   1688 – 1819

PATERSON, Alexander
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 9 Dec 1802
Recorded in: St. Ninians, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father: Robert PATERSON
Mother: Helen TURNBULL
Source: FHL Film 1041956   Dates:   1688 - 1819

I'm not searching this family but if there's any more lookups you'd like either on the BVR's of 1881 Cencus, just give me a shout.

Anne

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Re: Patersons of St Ninians Stirling
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 December 09 13:44 GMT (UK) »
Keera: the Robert Paterson & Helen Turnbull you mention are my direct forefather & mother I have some info that may be helpful, if you are still searching.Llikewise, happy to receive anything you have. Let me know.

Peter

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Re: Patersons of St Ninians Stirling
« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 December 09 21:58 GMT (UK) »
Dear Peter,
I have not looked at this line for some years but am always interested. Which line are you descended from? Mine is (as in the earlier post) through Robert and Helen's son Robert and their son Alexander who came to Australia. I can give you the info I have on their family in Australia.I have noting further back on this couple. Kind Regards
Keera
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Fowler, Patey & Bassett (London)
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Re: Patersons of St Ninians Stirling
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 29 December 09 11:32 GMT (UK) »
Keera: I'd be very interested in these Paterson precursors in Australia. My line descends from Robert and Helen, via James (b 1795), who married Isabella Ewing in 1822, their son, also James ( b June 1828) who married a Mary Paterson  (b 1829 in Dunfermline - yes same name) and had, amongst others, Alexander (b 1860 in Edinburgh), who married Annie Young (b Auchterarder c 1861) They had, amongst others, my grandfather, Peter Young Paterson (b 1897) who married Jane Carrigan (of Craigtoun Cottage, Logie, on Airthrey Estate, now the site of the University of Stirling, b 17 December 1899) in 1918 and had, amongst others, my late father Tommy Paterson, in 1922 - who married my mother Margaret McKenzie Morrison of Cambusbarron, in 1948.

All the Patersons spent most of their lives in St Ninians (indeed, the old St Ninians Main street, now demolished, had many addresses occupied by various Patersons, almost certainly related: which I'm still trying to work out!

I can fill in sibling blanks where I have them, but here I've given my direct line. Anu other info you have would be great.

best wishes,

Peter

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Re: Patersons of St Ninians Stirling
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 29 December 09 20:03 GMT (UK) »
Here is a photo that might be of interest here.

I was born in St Ninians about the time this photo was taken (circa 1938) and it was given to me by a friend whose parents lived in 'The Auld Toon' (Main St)
The photo was taken in the 'dip' of the 'Auld Toon' looking north.
Shortly after the photo was taken, some demolition began and many of the families were moved to the newly built houses in Bannockburn Rd and Cornhill Cres.

I have had a go at trying to find names to go with faces and have given a copy to the local barber shop in the hope that some of the oldtimers can help in that.



Ferguson (Stirling & Parish of Kincardine) Stevenson (Bannockburn) Cowan (Stirling) McLean (Glasgow,  Dundee & Skye)

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Re: Patersons of St Ninians Stirling
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 29 December 09 20:30 GMT (UK) »
Great photo Fergie - nice to see people looking happy and smiling as a lot of the photos I see, everyone looks so sad or sombre  :)

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Re: Patersons of St Ninians Stirling
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 29 December 09 21:05 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Monica.  Just hope it's of interest to anyone doing research in and around the village of St Ninians.
I could mention that the Pelstream burn, mentioned in accounts of the Battle of Bannockburn, runs left to right under the road and houses about five to ten yards behind the line of children and surfaced just through the pend seen on the right of the photo.

Cheers.
Ferguson (Stirling & Parish of Kincardine) Stevenson (Bannockburn) Cowan (Stirling) McLean (Glasgow,  Dundee & Skye)

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Re: Patersons of St Ninians Stirling
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 29 December 09 21:13 GMT (UK) »
What a great photo.
As you say, the Pelstream Burn is so well known in the Bannockburn records, that it comes as a bit of a shock to hear it runs under a perfectly normal 20th C. street and comes out in the pend.
Ridiculous really - it's just a geographical landmark, but linking the 1314 history with this photo makes you realise that the more things change..
the more they stay the same.
Thanks for posting it, as a Paterson descendant with no connection to St Ninians' (as far as I know) I checked the posting out of pure curiosity and am so glad I did - lovely picture
Maggie 1895
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