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Re: ORWIN
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 26 June 22 07:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Debra
When I first put this up I had been told by a descendant of William that he and Sarah were buried together at Jesmond cemetery. After that I was given the link to the Parker-Potts wedding which I hadn't been able to find . I agree that now it seems more likely that Isabella is his wife. I'm still waiting on the cemetery to confirm the gravestone details.
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« Reply #10 on: Sunday 26 June 22 09:11 BST (UK) »
1841 Mary Parker is not born in Northumberland.

Bapts;
St Mary, Gateshead, Durham
RALPH POTTS Parker 09 Mar 1822, buried 24 Mar 1822 sage 14 days
MARY Parker 16 Nov 1823*****
Parents as WILLIAM/ISABELLA, Father a Gardener, abode Gateshead
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1821 Marriage is there also, it implies William could write as Isabella signs X

Its appears to me that Daug Sarah married a James ORWIN 1869

1871 Census
James Orwin 30   Head
Sarah Orwin 38   Wife
William Orwin 8 Son
Isabella Orwin 5   Daughter
Michael Orwin 27 Lodger

Trish :)

EDIT;
SARAH Parker bapt 1 Jan 1829 Wallsend, Northumberland
Birth 17 Oct 1827***
Parents WILLIAM/ISABELLA nee Potts
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Re: ORWIN
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 26 June 22 10:41 BST (UK) »
It is possible Sarah lied on her bapt of Son WILLIAM Bapt 18 Oct 1863
Parents as WILLIAM/SARAH, Father a Soldier

This may be why Trees are confused?

She then bapts as a singlewoman;
ISABELLA 10 Jul 1866, abode Ouse Burn

This would be William/Sarah Orwin who appear in the 1871 Census with James/Sarah Orwin

1891 we have;
James Orwin 44   Head
Isabella Orwin 24 Daughter
John Parker 8 Grandson

John is the Son of William Parker/Jane Poulton married 1882
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Re: ORWIN
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 26 June 22 11:41 BST (UK) »
Hi Trish
Thanks for all that. It looks like the Parker / Orwin gravestone might be father / daughter perhaps. Thanks for the Potts info, I'd found the Gateshead marriage details earlier today. I'm hoping that Jesmond cemetery will get back to me next week to give more info on the stone
Good stuff, many thanks
Phil


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« Reply #13 on: Monday 27 June 22 13:53 BST (UK) »
Good luck Phil.

Let us know how you get on with the cemetery info.

Trish :)

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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 28 June 22 00:37 BST (UK) »
Hi trish
Thanks for all your help. I found a BMD entry for an Isabella Parker who died 1837 in Newcastle, could well be mine. Waiting on the certificate as we speak. Will post when I get that result as well as when I hear from Jesmond
Cheers
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« Reply #15 on: Saturday 02 July 22 03:25 BST (UK) »
Ah well, Wasn't my Isabella Parker and Jesmond haven't got back to me. Back to the blackboard.
Phil

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Re: ORWIN
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 03 August 22 01:24 BST (UK) »
So, Jesmond cemetery got back, turns out there isn't a gravestone, just a burial plot, no other info. Dead end for now

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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 03 August 22 04:37 BST (UK) »
Just to confuse things, there is a news article from December 1852 which mentions Isabella and James Parker of Lime Street, and she is very much alive at that point.  Is she then a second wife if James was a widower in the 1851 census? Or perhaps two sets of Isabella/James on Lime Street?  ???

Newcastle Guardian and Tyne Mercury 11 December 1852

EDIT  never mind..... you need a William, not a James!