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Patrick McDonnell, convict, probably Tasmania
« on: Tuesday 21 June 22 02:31 BST (UK) »
Mentioned in the convict record of his sister Margaret McDonnell, who was tried at Drodhega, Ireland and was transported on the "Arabian" in 1847 to Van Diemen's land. I am presuming that he was there also, since VDL records know about him in 1847.

https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON41-1-12$init=CON41-1-12p98 Margaret McDonnell

I am having trouble finding anything on Patrick McDonnell in Tasmania.

Any help would be much appreciated.

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Re: Patrick McDonnell, convict, probably Tasmania
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 21 June 22 06:46 BST (UK) »
Going by her convict record brother Patrick arrived 1844 but i can't read the rest properly to know exactly what else it says about him.

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Re: Patrick McDonnell, convict, probably Tasmania
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 21 June 22 07:32 BST (UK) »

Possibilty?

Surname: MC DONNELL; First name: PATRICK;
Sex: M; Place of trial: Dublin; Place of imprisonment: Richmond Bridewell; Date of trial:
14/02/1844; Description of crime: Receiving stolen goods; Sentence: Trans 7 years; Name
of petitioner: Mary Mc Donnell and Self; Relationship of petitioner: Wife;
Record reference code: CRF 1844 Mc 8;
Comments: Prisoner was convicted of selling copper and lead which had been stolen from
Mr Thomas Hunt in Love Lane, off Cork St, Dublin. Sentence commuted to one year
imprisonment
. Petitioners residence given as 17 Cork St. Occupation given as dealer in
rags and bones

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Re: Patrick McDonnell, convict, probably Tasmania
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 21 June 22 08:23 BST (UK) »
Or possibly Patrick O'Donnell:

https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON33-1-55$init=CON33-1-55p27
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Re: Patrick McDonnell, convict, probably Tasmania
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 21 June 22 09:25 BST (UK) »
giblet: I can't read the writing much more than that  her brother Patrick was transported as well. That's really all I know about him. Parents Jeremiah McDonnell and Bridget Neehan, both Irish. Thanks for your help.

Tree Spirit: this one is a definite possibility, but does the Sentence commuted to one year imprisonment refer to after being transported? Thanks.

ShaunJ: is also possible. I'm struggling to read the writing. Will print it off and try a magnifying glass ... see how I go. Thanks.

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Re: Patrick McDonnell, convict, probably Tasmania
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 21 June 22 10:48 BST (UK) »
I think the last bit is about her:

18 mos (months) on the Town (a prostitute). Single
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Re: Patrick McDonnell, convict, probably Tasmania
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 21 June 22 10:58 BST (UK) »


"Parents Jeremiah McDonnell and Bridget Neehan"

Where are you seeing this information?.

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Re: Patrick McDonnell, convict, probably Tasmania
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 21 June 22 11:33 BST (UK) »


CON15-1-4 Image 70
Police number 731  McDONNALL Margt  24y  country servant tried Drogheda  1 July '46
sentence 7 years  Native Place Drogheda....single...Roman Catholic...Read/write   N(either)
Relations    *  Harry.....B(rother) Patrick.....S(ister) Judith....at Native Place
B Patrick brought in 1844 to this colony
Stealing money from John ****Y at native place (Ann MORGAN on board for same)
18 mts on the town.

Police number 732  MORGAN Ann  21y  nursemaid/needlewoman tried Drogheda  1 July '46
sentence 7 years  Native Place Dublin singe...CofE....read.....
M(other)  Margaret   B(rother) Dermott   S(ister)  Mary Catherine    all at native place
(ditto) Stealing money from John ****Y at native place
9 mts on the town

In CON41 and CON15 brother is named as Patrick only, no family name. Brother Patrick might have a different family name eg widowed mother has two marriages, two families?



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Re: Patrick McDonnell, convict, probably Tasmania
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 21 June 22 11:39 BST (UK) »
Tree Spirit: this one is a definite possibility, but does the Sentence commuted to one year imprisonment refer to after being transported? Thanks.

His (14 page) file starts here: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89L4-6Q3Y?i=702
FYI he was 35y in 1844: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99L4-H6C?i=237