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Chesterfield Cottages, Cromer - who lived here 1920?
« on: Saturday 18 June 22 17:05 BST (UK) »
This is I believe Edward Slipper Gaff, possibly with one of his daughters. It is simply labelled "Cromer 1920".

I've had a look on maps of the time, and then on Google, and I reckon this is highly likely to be 19 Chesterfield Cottages, Cromer.

The problem is that Edward Slipper Gaff lived in London for most of his life, in 1911, at his marriage in 1919, in 1929 on the electoral register etc... So what was he doing in Cromer? Maybe on holiday but why is he wearing his work clothes (he was a butcher)? He does have family from Norfolk but none I am aware of in Cromer.

Who lived at 19 Chesterfield Cottages in Cromer in 1920? I tried searching using the findmypast free search for the 1921 census but none of the Chesterfield Cottages addresses showed up.

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Re: Chesterfield Cottages, Cromer - who lived here 1920?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 18 June 22 18:10 BST (UK) »
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why is he wearing his work clothes (he was a butcher)?

Or is it a raincoat?
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Re: Chesterfield Cottages, Cromer - who lived here 1920?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 18 June 22 18:57 BST (UK) »
There was a Ernest Edward Gaff, b 1895,  living very close to Cromer on the 1921 census

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Re: Chesterfield Cottages, Cromer - who lived here 1920?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 18 June 22 21:50 BST (UK) »
Why is it "highly likely" to have been 19 Chesterfield Cottages?  Have you seen a photo of Chesterfield Cottages & identified it from the design?

If not - how have you arrived at the address? 
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Re: Chesterfield Cottages, Cromer - who lived here 1920?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 18 June 22 22:45 BST (UK) »
1911 census has 1 Chesterfield Cotts, West Street,Cromer

Free search of 1921 census for 19 West Street, Cromer has this

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Re: Chesterfield Cottages, Cromer - who lived here 1920?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 June 22 07:11 BST (UK) »
Why is it "highly likely" to have been 19 Chesterfield Cottages?  Have you seen a photo of Chesterfield Cottages & identified it from the design?

If not - how have you arrived at the address?

Cromer was quite a bit smaller in the 1920s than now, so there's aren't many possible streets of 19+ houses. I looked around on Google Streetview and most are either grander or else built entirely in red brick. I haven't found a picture of no.19 but you can see most of the rest of the terrace on Streetview and I also found sale/rental adverts for other numbers. The details such the single row of red bricks below the second story windows and the arrangement of bricks around the doors all match up.

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Re: Chesterfield Cottages, Cromer - who lived here 1920?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 June 22 07:19 BST (UK) »
1911 census has 1 Chesterfield Cotts, West Street,Cromer

Free search of 1921 census for 19 West Street, Cromer has this

Rose Amis 1884
Violet Beatrice Amis 1901
Gerald Fredrick Amis 1904 all born Norfolk

Thanks for looking this up. I did notice that Chesterfield Cottages are sometimes listed as being on West Street, however West Street continues into the town centre towards Garden Street and definitely has its own No.19 at the opposite end of it from Chesterfield Cottages.

If you subscribe to findmypast to view the 1921 census, do you get access to scans of the original returns that you can browse through, or is it just transcriptions? I'd be happy to browse through all of Cromer tbh, maybe Chesterfield Cottages is scribbled down as something else.

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Re: Chesterfield Cottages, Cromer - who lived here 1920?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 June 22 08:25 BST (UK) »
Well I think I've got it. Browsing around the 1911 census scans and what free searches I can do for the 1921 on findmypast, I've found these address written variously as e.g. "4 Chesterfield Cottages, North Row, Cromer" and "No 12 North Row, Chesterfield, Cromer" and "15 North Row, West Street, Cromer"

So I bought the 1921 record for 19, North Row, Cromer. Which I believe is Chesterfield Cottages. Living there are widow Elizabeth Smith and son Frederick and lodger George Neale. No connection to Edward Slipper Gaff or the Gaff family that I know of, but maybe one can be found.

I'm 98% sure that the man pictured in my OP is Edward Slipper Gaff but if I can find a link to this address I'll know for sure.


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Re: Chesterfield Cottages, Cromer - who lived here 1920?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 June 22 08:29 BST (UK) »
As you have discovered, it appears that Chesterfield Cottages was known formally as (or as part of) North Row back then.

James John Dennis married in 1921 and gave his address as 1 Chesterfield Cottages. In the electoral rolls his address is 1 North Row.

In the 1911 census there are at least three households (Blogg at 17, and Allen at 4 and 10) who gave addresses in Chesterfield Cottages but whose census returns were addressed to them in North Row.

In the 1920 and 1921 electoral rolls, Elizabeth Smith is at 19.
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