Karen Cook

[Michael Craig]

Hi
    I got the death so she has passed in london  i got it of a tree looking for children of Hannah but not finding any

mike

[CaroleW]

I can't find the tree you mention but as I said above - there is only one matching marriage & that was 1952

There were 2 children born to that marriage - both in Manchester & both are on freebmd

Did you check the death info for yourself or just take what it said on the tree??  If you check the 1958 death you will find he was born 1883

When is H* supposed to have died?

[Michael Craig]

I think it 2004 I will check on the tree later can you private message the names pleade

[CaroleW]

Michael

We are going round in circles here.  Your thread is now running at 6 pages.  The childrens names are on freebmd as stated

We already know that the mother of the 2 illegitimate girls married McDonald so why have you posted that again?

You were advised to tell the living daughter to take a DNA test & have now come back with what appears to be Jewish ancestry - none of which makes any sense.

Did you read my replies re marriage & death dates for Israel Goodman?  You give a 1958 death in London of a man born in 1883 - where does he connect to illegitimate children born in Manchester in the 1950's??

Your replies are hard to understand as they contain very little detail and therefore attract questions.  Can I suggest you read this thread again from start to finish & determine exactly what connection you are trying to establish & with who. 

Please ensure all birthyears, marriage & death years are included - not just names

[CaroleW]

If you research the names you mention - there is a 1963 marriage between Mannan (Hannah) Goodman & Vivian J Hyman

Hannah Hyman born 31.1.1933 died 2004 Manchester - not London
Vivian Jack Hyman b 28.12.1923 died 2007 Manchester

Vivian ywas previously married & you will find the marriage on freebmd in 1951.  Son born 1957 but not the name you give in your earlier reply.  His wife remarried 1961 in London and no death is found for her up to 2020 so her name cannot be given.

No children born to the 1963 marriage

If Hannah married Israel in 1952 - he only died 1991 - again  Manchester not London - so they must have divorced.  Israel appears to have remarried in 1960 in Manchester so the 1958 death is the wrong person as previously advised. 

Trees on Ancestry are notoriously unreliable so you need to check things out yourself

I still cannot fathom where these people fit with the illegitimate Cook children apart from they all lived in Manchester.

[Michael Craig]

I have a shelley grove rusholme listed on death certificate but can not find it only one in Droylsden was this grove part if rusholme in 1957 seems to far away

I also have what looks to be sha resheane of resheawe Street manchedter 13 ardwich I believe on birth certificate but maybe knocked down any help nothing on Google
Mike

[CaroleW]

This post started as a request to find the biological father of 2 illegitimate children surname Cook born in the late 1950's -  one of whom died shortly after birth & the other is still living. 

It suddenly expanded with the introduction of the surname Hyman - seemingly unconnected & with no explanation from you.

Your current reply is confusing.  Can I suggest you visit the Manchester Records Office and search the electoral registers for the addresses you give above.  If you are looking for the residents of that address in 1957 then that is the best way for you to get the information

You are already aware that information about possible living persons is not allowed & you have been given a lot of advice on the way forward via DNA

 

[heywood]

I have a shelley grove rusholme listed on death certificate but can not find it only one in Droylsden was this grove part if rusholme in 1957 seems to far away

I also have what looks to be sha resheane of resheawe Street manchedter 13 ardwich I believe on birth certificate but maybe knocked down any help nothing on Google
Mike

Do you mean Manchester 13 district? If so then this might be right.
Renshaw Street became Epping Street. The postcode though is M15 now.

[Michael Craig]

Hi
    I got the shelley grove from the cemetery office

The death certificate listed Brighton Grove  got some names of great grand mother living there from library as Adrienne was not listed as she was only 18 and women under 21 not listed

Birth certificate only came on 27 July the day I left to drive to Bulgaria for holiday

So will check when I get home from my holiday but address is different so confused

Looks like Sha Resheane Grove not sure if it sharesheane or sheresheawe but it M13 which looks to be advice

But thank you everyone so far for the help but looking like a brick wall I will hand what info I have to the family