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Re: Finding birth record
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 12 June 22 22:23 BST (UK) »
Just a bit of newspaper trivia in case the street names help:

Exeter Flying Post 06 August 1892
MARDON - DART- Aug 1, at St Paul's Church, Exeter.
Henry James Mardon to Edith Emma Dart, both of Paul-street, Exeter

Western Times 20 January 1899
Deaths
MARDON - Jan 14, at 34, Rosebery Road, Exeter, Henry James Mardon, age 32.

Exeter and Plymouth Gazette 13 January 1900
In Memoriam
MARDON.  In loving memory of Henry James Mardon, who fell asleep January 14th, 1899
"A light is from our household gone,
A voice we loved is stilled
A place is vacant in our home
Which never can be filled."

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Re: Finding birth record
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 12 June 22 22:36 BST (UK) »
Paul Street is where Edith is living with her parents in 1901

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Re: Finding birth record
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 12 June 22 22:50 BST (UK) »
1939 free index
John Morris, born 1878, 53 Cae Gwyn Road, Cardiff

Redacted entries after him on ancestry.
Electoral register 1939
53 Caegwyn Road
John Morris
Gladys Marion Morris
John Percival Morris

MORRIS, JOHN  PERCIVAL     
Mother's Maiden Surname: FOGWELL 
GRO Reference: 1916  S Quarter in PONTYPRIDD  Volume 11A  Page 1236

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« Reply #30 on: Sunday 12 June 22 23:00 BST (UK) »
Redacted entries after him on ancestry.

You can just see a bit of the end of the occupation of the one under him
Possibly going to be Duties, as in Unpaid Domestic?


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Re: Finding birth record
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 12 June 22 23:07 BST (UK) »
Also there are
Stanley P Down
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Daisy N A Morris
June 1937, East Glamorgan 11a 1496

I wonder if Nora is significant, as daughter Daisy Nora Ann b 1912.

Born 1911, registered March qtr 1912

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Re: Finding birth record
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 12 June 22 23:07 BST (UK) »
1939 free index
John Morris, born 1878, 53 Cae Gwyn Road, Cardiff

Redacted entries after him on ancestry.
Electoral register 1939
53 Caegwyn Road
John Morris
Gladys Marion Morris
John Percival Morris

MORRIS, JOHN  PERCIVAL     
Mother's Maiden Surname: FOGWELL 
GRO Reference: 1916  S Quarter in PONTYPRIDD  Volume 11A  Page 1236

Thank you! That's amazing. Definitely them, I've heard of that address. Based on the details you provided, I have purchased the full 1939 Register record from FindMyPast and now know that his DOB was 11th January 1878.

Or at least, that's what he said it was!

This also accounts for the whole family's whereabouts in 1939 now, I think (I'm assuming the two redacted lines are wife (end of "unpaid domestic duties", I agree) and youngest daughter, and I already know his son was elsewhere) - so that's nice.

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« Reply #33 on: Sunday 12 June 22 23:19 BST (UK) »
Ok - armed with the DOB, I've searched FindMyPast and found and purchased a baptism record which fits. Only thing is, I'm sure I looked at it last year and rejected it for some reason - but I may well have been wrong to do so. Details below:

Parish: Ruabon
Date of baptism: 17/02/1878
Name: John
Parents: John and Sarah Morris
Abode: Cemetery Lodge
Rank, quality or profession: Labourer

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Re: Finding birth record
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 12 June 22 23:20 BST (UK) »
That baptism looks promising!

And news of John's death.
National Probate Calendar 1954
John Morris of 53 Caegwyn Road Whitchurch
Died 16 Dec 1953
Administration (with Will) to Gladys Marion Morris, widow
Effects £1649 9s. 1d.

Maybe
Dec 1953 East Glamorgan 8b 271
Morris, John
age 75

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Re: Finding birth record
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 12 June 22 23:47 BST (UK) »
Thank you jonw65! Looks like we have filled in the gaps at the beginning and end of his life! I had really lost hope; should have asked on here sooner!

I'm now going to work backwards and look at his probable parents, John and Sarah. I've found the family in the 1881 census (still living at Cemetery Lodge and John sr. is a sexton), and from that got John and Sarah's ages and places of birth. I'll give it a rest for the night but this is all very promising.