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Re: Help finding John Coleman born 1845 Knocknahur Sligo
« Reply #18 on: Monday 25 November 24 15:50 GMT (UK) »
If I could even get a census of Ireland copy which had both John and Michael in then that would help. According to census records John was born 1845.

Unfortunately, that is very unlikely. Pre 1901 only small isolated fragments survive.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Help finding John Coleman born 1845 Knocknahur Sligo
« Reply #19 on: Monday 25 November 24 16:21 GMT (UK) »
I have not been able to get the birth certificate for any other of Michaels children born in England because of not having any proof of who they are.
A Michael  Coleman in sligo is on the 1901 census

Michael Coleman
Gender   Male
Marital Status   Widower
Age   86
Birth Date   abt 1815
Birth Place   Co Sligo
Residence Date   31 Mar 1901
House Number   1
Residence Place   Rathmactiernan, Cartron, Sligo, Ireland
Relation to Head   Head of Family (Head)
Occupation   Farmer
Religion   Roman Catholic
Language Spoken   Irish English
Literacy   Read write
Household Members (Name)   Age   Relationship
Michael Coleman   86   Head of Family (Head)
Batty Coleman
35
Son
Henry Coleman
30
Son

This would probably only apply if my ancestor John Coleman came to England without his father?


Johnson, Coleman, Graham, Dixon, Thewlis

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Re: Help finding John Coleman born 1845 Knocknahur Sligo
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 18 June 25 17:44 BST (UK) »
This from 1861 census, Knaresborough. Michael Coleman, licensed Hawker & family.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:M712-ZV8

1881 census for Michael (Unlikely to be same one)

https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:Q275-Y3Z4

Children on 1861 census have MMN of Lemmon & Kelley or Kelly for the younger ones

1881 census, Knaresborough for Ann & some of children. Son Michael is a hawker. Ann listed as a widow.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27R-CPNP

There is a death of a Michael Coleman in Knaresborough, 1865, age 44.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:661H-8G81

I have gone back to this again despite the fact that I had a message from someone with that record in their tree, claiming the Colemans were well off and they did not know of a John.
Because....
 I found a marriage record for Bridget Coleman who could have been "my" Johns sister, and on that record it said her father Micheal was a Hawker. Now on that 1861 census Micheal Coleman Knaresboro  the pages you get from the sites do not have a John in them. BUT if you actually load and look at  the copy of the original record there are many more children listed! There is a John , son, aged 20! So because of Bridget's father being a Hawker, I'm going to assume This is "my John. Why are so few of the children listed. There are the following children, Bridget, Margaret, John, Patrick, Micheal, Thomas, Henry, Martin! The record is incomplete without all the children.
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Re: Help finding John Coleman born 1845 Knocknahur Sligo
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 24 June 25 11:38 BST (UK) »
I looked at it again and I see that there are 2 Michael Colemans and family on the same page and the Michael Coleman who is a Hawker doesn’t have a son John listed.
Johnson, Coleman, Graham, Dixon, Thewlis