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Re: Bureau families UK….. any connection?
« Reply #45 on: Friday 24 June 22 10:01 BST (UK) »
The family search tree has a similar birth - year out but same place - for JeanBaptiste as the tree on Ancestry but has his death in 1874
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Bureau families UK….. any connection?
« Reply #46 on: Friday 24 June 22 10:27 BST (UK) »
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Charles died 15 Jun 1853 when the ship he was serving on had a disastrous accident.
There are multiple newspaper articles on it, such as Portsmouth Times and Naval Gazette 25 June 1853.

See replies #8-#10.
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Re: Bureau families UK….. any connection?
« Reply #47 on: Friday 24 June 22 11:52 BST (UK) »
Thanks for this info. We've just found this out about a fortnight ago from other kind people's postings. It's broken down our brickwall of many years.

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Re: Bureau families UK….. any connection?
« Reply #48 on: Friday 24 June 22 12:43 BST (UK) »
The problem I have with the suggested family tree and 1825 census, is that Charles Ferdinand, the first child, born in 1822, does NOT appear on it, when he would have been 2/3 years of age. So, is it the correct family?
Having been previously confused by having several Charles Bureaus in Quebec to choose from, there are also several Jean and Jean-Baptiste Bureaus. In some censuses there is a Jean Bureau, occupation Charon, but in other censuses there is listed Jean-Baptiste! It should be noted there is another Jean-Baptiste Bureau around the same time, and in the censuses, but with a different wife and children!


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Re: Bureau families UK….. any connection?
« Reply #49 on: Friday 24 June 22 12:57 BST (UK) »
The 1825 Quebec census doesn't list the names or ages of children.
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« Reply #50 on: Friday 24 June 22 13:18 BST (UK) »
clarecuba - The 1851 census posted by polarbear earlier today which has Jean Bt Bureau, charron, Luce Monier, plus children, and includes 2 children crossed out at the bottom, Chs (Angleterre) and Theo (Boston) - presumably including them by mistake as they no longer live in Canada - seems to be pretty good proof that this is the right family.
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Bureau families UK….. any connection?
« Reply #51 on: Saturday 25 June 22 15:34 BST (UK) »
Most certainly the same family in the 1851 Quebec census. It is extremely fortunate that Jean recorded his son Charles as living in England. Connects the dots quite well, IMHO.

Here are the pertinent facts for the parents’ marriage. The full image is available on Ancestry.

On 02 May 1821
At Basilique Notre-Dame Quebec City Quebec

Between…
Jean Baptiste Bureau Master Coachmaker of this city (Quebec City)
Son of the age of majority of Jean Baptiste Bureau and Marie Jacob of the parish of l’Ange Gardian

And…
Luce Monier of this city (Quebec City)
Daughter of the age of majority of Charles Monier and deceased Marie Anne Falardeau of this parish

In the presence of…
Jean Baptiste Bureau father of the groom
Louis Bureau brother of the groom
Louis Jacob maternal uncle of the groom
Charles Monier father of the bride
Charles Monier brother of the bride
Brother-in-law of the bride whose name I can’t make out
Others not named

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Re: Bureau families UK….. any connection?
« Reply #52 on: Saturday 25 June 22 15:45 BST (UK) »
Wow! Thanks so much for that.

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« Reply #53 on: Saturday 25 June 22 17:54 BST (UK) »
You’re very welcome.

Here is the Quebec family in the 1861 census. Jean now has 2 sons in Boston. Charles, now deceased, is not included.

https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1861&op=img&id=4108624_00711

Luce Monier died in 1864 (image on Ancestry as Luce Monier). I haven’t yet found a death for Jean.

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