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Re: Bureau families UK….. any connection?
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 23 June 22 20:02 BST (UK) »
Following up on the baptism posted earlier by ShaunJ (reply #14) for Charles Ferdinand Bureau with parents Jean Bureau and Luce Monier….

The 1851 census for Quebec (actually taken in 1852) at this link appears to connect the dots between that Charles and the Charles who went to England and married Jane. At the end of the list of children in the census is a Charles noted as living elsewhere, in Angleterre. This is England.

Father in the census a coachmaker.

2nd son listed as living in Boston. Both entries crossed out for some reason but still clearly legible.

https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1851&op=img&id=e002332556  (courtesy of Library and Archives Canada)

Anyway, food for thought.

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« Reply #37 on: Thursday 23 June 22 21:15 BST (UK) »
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At the end of the list of children in the census is a Charles noted as living elsewhere, in Angleterre.

Well found, Polarbear.  That bit of (extra statutory) census information feels like a breakthrough. I think we have the right family.
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Re: Bureau families UK….. any connection?
« Reply #38 on: Friday 24 June 22 02:22 BST (UK) »
Just waking up to your message Polar Bear, what a find, many thanks for sharing  :)
In this entry it is quite nice to see the name simply written as Charles Bureau rather than the full name of Charles Ferdinand Bureau dit Sancoucy, which rather explains why (if this is the same Charles married to Jane), just Charles Bureau was used in other documentation in England.
There is an extensive family tree for Charles Ferdinand posted on Family Search, & whilst the birth & death dates are entered for his parents & sibling there is no date of death for Charles. I’ve recently tried contacting the person who posted the tree to compare notes but no reply so far.
Seeing the crossed out entry of the two sons not resident in Canada is so very serendipitous!

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« Reply #39 on: Friday 24 June 22 02:23 BST (UK) »
Family tree of Charles Ferdinand Bureau dit Sancoucy

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/fanchart/LBZZ-C47


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Re: Bureau families UK….. any connection?
« Reply #40 on: Friday 24 June 22 02:34 BST (UK) »
You are very welcome. Certainly looks like your family.

Haven’t found the parents’ marriage yet but Ancestry seems to have info about a marriage contract from 1821, if I remember correctly.

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« Reply #41 on: Friday 24 June 22 03:46 BST (UK) »
Just had a closer look & column 9 is quite interesting, “Marie/non Marie” married or single?
For Charles it indicates that he’s married, Charles & Jane married in 1850.

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« Reply #42 on: Friday 24 June 22 07:56 BST (UK) »
There’s a tree on ancestry which says Jean Baptiste and Luce Monier were married on 20 may 1821 in Quebec. It has both their births in Quebec too. BUT it doesn’t have Charles as a son, and says Jean Baptiste died in 1837, yet he’s on the 1851 census posted above 🤔
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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« Reply #43 on: Friday 24 June 22 09:05 BST (UK) »
Charles died 15 Jun 1853 when the ship he was serving on had a disastrous accident.
There are multiple newspaper articles on it, such as Portsmouth Times and Naval Gazette 25 June 1853.


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Re: Bureau families UK….. any connection?
« Reply #44 on: Friday 24 June 22 09:42 BST (UK) »
Charles died 15 Jun 1853 when the ship he was serving on had a disastrous accident.
There are multiple newspaper articles on it, such as Portsmouth Times and Naval Gazette 25 June 1853.



Thanks, the tree has his father’s death in 1837
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....