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Offline katiesam

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Cannot find records for my great-great grandparents
« on: Tuesday 31 May 22 12:23 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

I'm unable to find any birth/marriage/death records for my great-great grandparents. I'm relying on what my grandmother has told me about her grandparents.

I'm a subscriber to myhertiage and have looked on there and have searched on the Irish Geneaoly site with no results matching.

I've been told the following -

John Costello 1885-1947 born in Dublin, died in Cork
Mary Costello (born Garins) 1887-1961, born in Cork and died in London, England
They had a son called John in 1917 who is my great grandfather and a son called James circa 1920. There could be other children, but these are the only ones I'm aware of.

I have a feeling the surname Garins could be spelled wrong or maybe is wrong, my grandmother is adamant it was Garins and presumes it was spelled that way.

Please can someone point me in the right direction - I would love to find out details about their siblings and parents if possible. Don't know where to look for more info

Thank you!



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Re: Cannot find records for my great-great grandparents
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 31 May 22 12:36 BST (UK) »
I wonder if the name was Gearon or Guerin - lots of variations.
It is strange that no records are showing.

When you say John snr died in Cork, is that the city or the county?

Is this John’s death?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1947/04577/4209854.pdf
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Re: Cannot find records for my great-great grandparents
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 31 May 22 12:44 BST (UK) »
From FreeBMD.org.uk:

Deaths, September qtr 1961
Wandsworth Registration District     vol 5d, page 543

Costello, Mary    age at death: 75 (so birth c1886)
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Cannot find records for my great-great grandparents
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 31 May 22 12:47 BST (UK) »
From FreeBMD.org.uk:

Deaths, September qtr 1961
Wandsworth Registration District     vol 5d, page 543

Costello, Mary    age at death: 75 (so birth c1886)

Hi, Thank you! Yes she died in Wandsworth so this is definitely her x


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Re: Cannot find records for my great-great grandparents
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 31 May 22 12:48 BST (UK) »
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Cannot find records for my great-great grandparents
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 31 May 22 12:50 BST (UK) »
I wonder if the name was Gearon or Guerin - lots of variations.
It is strange that no records are showing.

When you say John snr died in Cork, is that the city or the county?

Is this John’s death?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1947/04577/4209854.pdf

Hi, yes that seems to be him, I'm unsure if it was the county or the city, I presumed it was the city as I was told his wife Mary was from Cork City. It is strange that I cannot find anything about her birth or marriage - I wonder if records have been destroyed in the record fire as I know alot of Irish records were.
Thank you! x

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Re: Cannot find records for my great-great grandparents
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 31 May 22 12:51 BST (UK) »
Closest I found so far is a John Costelloe & Mary Donovan  ???
son John born 1917-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1917/01316/1543864.pdf
son James born 1920-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1920/01196/1497816.pdf
This couple married in 1916-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1916/09782/5550765.pdf

katiesam- do you have a date of birth for your great-grandfather John?

yes his date of birth is 2nd January 1917 I've been told

funny you should say donovan as that's the only close match I found and was told my family members she was garins? so strange

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Re: Cannot find records for my great-great grandparents
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 31 May 22 12:52 BST (UK) »
No Irish vital records (births, marriages, death) were destroyed.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Cannot find records for my great-great grandparents
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 31 May 22 12:54 BST (UK) »
yes his date of birth is 2nd January 1917 I've been told

funny you should say donovan as that's the only close match I found and was told my family members she was garins? so strange

It's possible she was also known by another name (stepfather, mother's partner, mother's parents' etc.) so too soon to rule anything out yet.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!