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Castle Upton, Antrim, Ireland
« on: Thursday 26 May 22 17:52 BST (UK) »
Hello

Did Castle Upton keep a list of its servants in the 1800's and if so how do you find that list?
Thanks for your help.

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Re: Castle Upton, Antrim, Ireland
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 26 May 22 19:30 BST (UK) »

Welcome to RootsChat  :)

Have you searched for the servant lists on the PRONI e-catalogue?

https://apps.proni.gov.uk/eCatNI_IE/SearchPage.aspx


Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: Castle Upton, Antrim, Ireland
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 26 May 22 20:10 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the suggestion. I checked it out and servants were not something they wrote about. I did not know if when the Census was taken how Castles and Businesses were handled back in that day.

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Re: Castle Upton, Antrim, Ireland
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 26 June 22 21:43 BST (UK) »
I am also looking for the servants at Castle Upton. My great great great grandmother was supposed to have worked there. Her name was Agnes Blair nee either O'Neill or McChesney.


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Re: Castle Upton, Antrim, Ireland
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 26 June 22 21:58 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the suggestion. I checked it out and servants were not something they wrote about. I did not know if when the Census was taken how Castles and Businesses were handled back in that day.

Same as any other residence. 1901 and 1911 census here (free)-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/
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Re: Castle Upton, Antrim, Ireland
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 26 June 22 22:19 BST (UK) »
Hopefully not being too pessimistic but some realism is needed here about the types of records kept in Ireland in the 1800s. Written records for servants weren’t a high priority. I have often been asked to try and find estate records that record labourers and servants. Mostly their lives were lived below officialdom’s radar.  Once in a whole you do find something, but in general folk like that were on unwritten leases and unwritten employment terms. They moved about all the time and few records exist unless they did something spectacular that hit the headlines. They might be in Griffiths if they had a house of their own, and they might be in the 1901 & 1911 censuses but if they were a servant working at Castle Upton in the mid 1800s, they may not appear in any estate records nor any government records. It just wasn’t data anyone then felt needed recording.
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Re: Castle Upton, Antrim, Ireland
« Reply #6 on: Monday 27 June 22 13:21 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the imformation.