1921 Cenus Lookup Chesterfield

[Beard grandchild]

I have a Thomas Mellors, born 1913 Manchester, Lancashire England in the 1921 census living in Chesterfield.
Please can anyone tell me where in Chesterfield he was living and if there is any evidence that he was not with his birth mother.
Thanks in advance ,
Pat.

[jonwarrn]

Edited to remove information.

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[Beard grandchild]

Thank you very much for this.

 Family belief is that Thomas had been born under a different name and have his birth year as December 17  1912.

The Manchester birthplace agrees with what the family do know about Thomas.

As  adoption didn't become official until 1926 I expect this may never be discovered.

[lemur41]

Hi
Don't totally rule out the 17th Dec 1912 birthdate  unless you have seen the bc.The reg of Births law gives parents 6 weeks/42 days period to register a birth.

 It's  not unknown  for a child born in December to have been reg in the first Q of the following year  I have a couple in my FT. One is a Gt GM born 12th Dec and reg on 1st January of following year , wouldn't happen now,  the New Year's Day Reg I mean

[DCB]

This is Thomas and Ada in 1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7T5-RVB

Thomas Mellors married Ada Rogers at St Mary & All Saints, Chesterfield 28 March 1910 1910

No births registered for a Mellors with mmn Rogers.

Thomas did give his birth as 17 Dec 1912 in the later register.

Some trees give his father as John Mellor and one has a mother named Ellen Fish. However, that family was living in Yorkshire in 1911.

David

[DCB]

I have a similar problem with my great grandfather who doesn't seem to exist prior to his marriage.

An old family tree mentions a step-brother, but that is not possible because neither of the step-brother's parents had a prior or subsequent marriage. However, after a DNA test, I found numerous matches to the alleged step-brother's family but none to my surname.

One of the step-brother's siblings, with roughly the same birth date and occupation, went missing. It appears that he changed both of his names to those of my ancestor.

Thomas Mellors may have also have changed one or both of his when adopted. A DNA test might shed some light on his origins and relatives.

David

[Ladyhawk]

This is Thomas and Ada in 1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7T5-RVB

Thomas Mellors married Ada Rogers at St Mary & All Saints, Chesterfield 28 March 1910 1910

No births registered for a Mellors with mmn Rogers.

Thomas did give his birth as 17 Dec 1912 in the later register.

Some trees give his father as John Mellor and one has a mother named Ellen Fish. However, that family was living in Yorkshire in 1911.

Just to say three Mellors/Rodgers birth entires on FreeBMD from 1919 registered in Chesterfield  as mentioned none for a Thomas Mellors 1912 with mmn Rodgers/Rogers

On the 1910 m/c Ada's surname is RoDgers her father Samuel Rodgers, deceased labourer

EDIT to add

It looks as if those births from 1919 in Chesterfield should have the surname MellArs not MellOrs and there is a marriage for a Walter MellArs to an Ann RoDgers in 1917 Chesterfield

[Ladyhawk]

Family belief is that Thomas had been born under a different name and have his birth year as December 17  1912.

The Manchester birthplace agrees with what the family do know about Thomas.

As  adoption didn't become official until 1926 I expect this may never be discovered.

A long shot if Thomas Mellors had a completely different name at birth there are these births entries registered in Manchester Dec Qtr. 1912 on FreeBMD with the same mother's name

HOLLAND   Charles A   Holland   Manchester   8d   429

KELLY   John   Kelly   Manchester   8d   402

MONKS   William   Monks   Manchester   8d   324

PRINCE   George   Prince   Manchester   8d   see D/15

Dec 1915  PRINCE George W.   Prince   Manchester   8d   346   
The above transcription represents what is in the GRO index but it is referred to by the following entry Births 1912 Dec: PRINCE, George, Prince, Manchester, 8d, see D/15

which implies that this is a late entry, that is an entry that has been registered in a quarter later than the event

and if the birth was registered in the Mar Qtr. 1913 there are these entries

KNOWLANDS   William H   Knowlands   Manchester   8d   400

MELLOR   Stanley   Mellor   Manchester   8d   403

SMITH   Harold   Smith   Manchester   8d   433

[Beard grandchild]

Thanks to all for your help. It's a friend of mine's family I was trying to help them find out about.

It looks as if Thomas was not born to the people who brought him up then.

The only other thing about his birth that they seem to believe is that he was born in Sale.

Anyway I will pass on the information you have all found for me and thanks once again.