Alexander Tilley b Wapping c1807 d St Lukes 1866 - any clues to parents?

[Kazlou]

No - the burial register has the wrong year.  There is a burial for a 17yr old Walter Henry Turner on the same page showing a burial on 13.1.1866 but he died March qtr 1867.  Think they forgot to acknowledge the New Year hence 1866 when it should be 1867

Yes - I can see that now  Interesting that the burial record gives his home address when he died in the workhouse though - or perhaps a relatives address ( i have a few mentions of Blue Anchor Alley).

I can update that - thank you!

Now just to see if there is any birth/parents information.  They were in the workhouse as children and it does say discharged with parents - but annoyingly doesn't list them 

[jonwarrn]

May be no connection but an Alexander Tilley b 1766 was buried 6.2.1825 at St Giles without Cripplegate

Not the most common of names😀

Similarly, there's a marriage at Wapping, 11 June 1804
Alexander Tilley + Elizabeth Dukes

Both single, of the parish, and they marked.

Alexander William and William Henry were born before Alexander Tilley and Sarah Humphreys married.
Both baptized at St Giles Cripplegate (1827, 1829)
Just an observation!

[jonwarrn]

Children - Alexander William, William Henry, Sarah, John, John Edward, Richard, Edward Richard, Elizabeth, Habbakuk(?) Abigail

Double baptism at St Thomas Charterhouse, 15 Nov 1849
Elizabeth, born 31 Jan 1845

Habakkuk, son of Alexander + Sarah Tilley
Born 26 Aug 1849
8 Willis Ct
Father a Shoe maker
Image
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-996G-GFLW

Likely birth reg of Elizabeth
TILLY, ELIZABETH  SARAH     
Mother's Maiden Surname: HUMPHRIS 
GRO Reference: 1845  M Quarter in SAINT LUKE MIDDLESEX  Volume 02  Page 306

But in 1849 there is no Habakkuk, instead
TILLEY, ELIZA  (female)      
Mother's Maiden Surname: HUMPHREYS 
GRO Reference: 1849  D Quarter in EAST LONDON UNION  Volume 02  Page 227

And in the 1851 census, no Habbakuk or Eliza, but a daughter Abigail, age 1.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG6C-HY2

Confusing!

There was a birth reg in 1847
TILLEY, ABIGAIL  ELIZA     
Mother's Maiden Surname: HUMPHREYS 
GRO Reference: 1847  S Quarter in EAST LONDON UNION  Volume 02  Page 214

And a death
TILLY, ABIGAIL  ELIZA     
Age at Death (in years): 1 
GRO Reference: 1848  S Quarter in SAINT LUKE MIDDLESEX  Volume 02  Page 262

[amondg]

The discharge from the workhouse dated 1814 has a reference - father in folio 73

Did you notice it.

In 1813 the children are listed as being of St George Middlesex 

[amondg]

Cannot prove it but the children in the workhouse 1813
Elizabeth age 8 years
Alexander age 6 yrs 6 months
John age 4 yrs 1 month
Sarah age 1 yr 4 months

are they the children of Alexander Tilley (1780)and Elizabeth Dukes married 11 June 1804 at Wapping.

His parents could be *Alexander Tilley (1751)married Elizabeth Polton 1 March 1779 at St Dunstan Stepney.
possible child Alexander born 1780.

Then one more generation
Alexander Tilley who married Elizabeth Pollard 19 August 1749 at Fleet. (he was a Potter)
In her deposition re Poor Laws she says they married 1749 at Fleet and she has a son *Alexander age about 30 (Ref: London Lives under Alexander Tilley 1788)

They had
Elizabeth bap 8 July 1750 at St John Wapping
*Alexander bap 15 December 1751 at St John Wapping

[Kazlou]

May be no connection but an Alexander Tilley b 1766 was buried 6.2.1825 at St Giles without Cripplegate

Not the most common of names😀

Similarly, there's a marriage at Wapping, 11 June 1804
Alexander Tilley + Elizabeth Dukes

Both single, of the parish, and they marked.

Alexander William and William Henry were born before Alexander Tilley and Sarah Humphreys married.
Both baptized at St Giles Cripplegate (1827, 1829)
Just an observation!

Thant's an interesting one for the parents! Will investigate further - thank you.

On the first two children, yes, I had noticed that. Both baptisms give mother's name as Sarah so on the balance of probabilities and in the absence of another marriage for Alexander senior I'm thinking it is the same parents.

[Kazlou]

Cannot prove it but the children in the workhouse 1813
Elizabeth age 8 years
Alexander age 6 yrs 6 months
John age 4 yrs 1 month
Sarah age 1 yr 4 months

are they the children of Alexander Tilley and Elizabeth Dukes married 11 June 1804 at Wapping.

His parents could be *Alexander Tilley married Elizabeth Polton 1 March 1779 at St Dunstan Stepney.
possible child Alexander born 1780.

Then one more generation
Alexander Tilley who married Elizabeth Pollard 19 August 1749 at Fleet.
In her deposition re Poor Laws she says they married 1749 at Fleet and she has a son Alexander age about 30

They had
Elizabeth bap 8 July 1750 at St John Wapping
*Alexander bap 15 December 1751 at St John Wapping

I believe that the workhouse children are the family I am looking for as everything ties in - sometimes that's the best you can do!

The additional information is really helpful - can I ask what the source is of the information on the two previous generations?

Thanks so much for helping 

[amondg]

Scrolling through ancestry.com for the past 2 hours and London Lives 1690-1800.

[Kazlou]

Scrolling through ancestry.com for the past 2 hours and London Lives 1690-1800.

Thanks amondg - I will re-visit Ancestry, don't recall these ever coming up when I've looked before. Appreciated.