Molong NSW

[Neale1961]

No, not much better, I’m afraid. Still just a blur.

Can you please list all the information that you see on the document.

[Elan]

Ok here is the written info:
Francis Albert Charles Jackison 40 builder divorced b- molong NSW F- William Jackison, Blacksmith M- Margaret Jackison nee Wright

[majm]

I have downliaded the  latest version.  I can zoom into various parts.

He is an honest man,  gives age as 40, born Molong N.S.W.,  divorce absolute with that effective date,  etc.

So the question becomes :

Why can we NOT find his NSW birth rego.

Some answers include
  registered under a different name
  not registered
  registered at Molong Court House, but the quarterly/annual return was not submitted and/or not procesed by Reg General at Sydney HQ ( until after WWI there was NOT any admin rule at HQ to check WHY no returns from any rural district.
  in mid 1970s Reg General dept insisted on ALL the original ledger books being recalled from every deputy registrar.   Some rural senior officers ummm took no action to comply.
  when EDP System initially set up, if a card mangled itself, noone knew how to recognise what data list

I could add many more "excuses" ... but we need solutions.

I am on e reader, tiny screen.... 1 finger typing.

My ancient rellies suggest:

Use LESS is more technique on NSW on lline birth search.

Use Jack* for surname.

Search one year at a time and one bdm district at a time. 

So Molong is one diiatrict.  Look also at Wellington; Forbes; Coiwra;  Orange; Mudgee; Bathurst; West Macquarie;  any Central West locality with a Court House during the ten years before and after he was born.   

Also consider he may have Aboriginal heritage at a grandparent or earlier generation. 

My ancient rellies include retired NSW bdm senior bods,  they will clear their committments for early next week to give your eyes a rest.

JM  sorry for possible typos, por grammar and silly spelling.  GOOD LUCK.

[majm]

Uf you "know" month of year born, not just year, use that to help limit the search (scroll down, it works similar to NZ bdm online date searching

JM

[Elan]

Thanks Majm for that wonderful advise.
 I dont know of the areas around Molong so I will do what you suggest. Two things however bother me.
1 - why say on the first marriage cert your mother was Janet and you didnt know what occupation your father had and then on the next marriage cert TWO years later its a different story.
2 - I cannot find him in any either Australia or NZ WW1 records he was clearly of the right age.

[majm]

Re 1st marriage info.


Remember that those details are NOT written by the  bride or groom (on that document).

Remember that when you married, the clergy or officiating celerant pointed to where you were to sign, gave you the pen, and their arm blocked your view of what was written... YOU were NOT asked to read this contract and check that the details are correct... like everyone else YOU TRUSTED the celebrant to accurately record the info you had provided.  Often the printed form provides for the celebrant to write the details later, (that day/week) ... before then sending it thriough to the HQ Admin for the BDM. 

Clergy are human,  they rely on their own diary notes, they can make errors.  Bridegroom are human, they rely on their own memories, and they make mistakes.

I was born in NSW 1947.  Some of my uncles include CofE clergy.   Hmmmm.... best I button my lip. 

The info on NZBDM marriages in 1920's is likely "informant driven" so unlikely for celebrant to demand positive proof of ID  but importantly, ordinary folk treated clergy as totally trustworthty, to be obeyed, and significant community leaders.  Clergy automatically had superior knowledge ahead of just about everyone, especially ordinary folk. 

Context in time, location, practices, expectations, living standards and education all are very important.

JM

[majm]

WWI.

Australians were all volunteers.  NO conscripts.  2 referendums, each time conscription rejected.   Also, some active discrimination meant very difficult for those with any hint of darker NON Anglo complexions to enlist ... so ummm ... Arbitrary decisions or passive non actions meant ignorance reigned, and many were not wanted in AIF by the  majority of  decision making bods.

JM

[wivenhoe]

Is   JACKSON   Francis Albert Charles   your direct ancestor?

Did you know him when you were a child/young adult, or is your knowledge of him limited to what older family members have told you?  Did you visit his house?


The 1927 marriage certificate....what is it?......registrar's copy #2?

All the handwriting is the same....no signatures.

Where is the original civil record?

[Elan]

Both marriage certs are printouts of the original through nzbdm it’s the cheapest option.