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Re: Mary Fortt (nee Fisk) brick wall... NEED Help!
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 15:40 BST (UK) »
There is a Mary Fisk baptised 26 Dec 1798 Parish of Stowmarket County of Suffolk

father William Fisk

mother Susan Chapman Fisk

There's a Susan Fisk death age 91 in the same area in 1858 but don't know if the same lady.

Death for William Fisk age 72 same area 1838.

I will make a floating tree in Ancestry on this info to see what come up

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Re: Mary Fortt (nee Fisk) brick wall... NEED Help!
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 16:26 BST (UK) »
I am rather sure you got it...  :)

The Mary Fisk linked to this William Fisk had a document attached to her. It was a Very fancy looking marriage contract of sorts with wax stamps of approval from William Fisk the father and William Fortt the Husband.

Thank you I am 90% sure this is right... Mary and William a such common names I may be a bit paranoid.

Mary's mother was listed Susan Chapman Fisk but Susan's father was listed as Thomas Chapman so Susan hyphenated her last name. Which I was told was a thing way back when.


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Re: Mary Fortt (nee Fisk) brick wall... NEED Help!
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 18:49 BST (UK) »
Have you noticed the living nextdoor to Mary and William on the 1841 census are a Sophia Fisk age 25 and a Francis Fisk age 60 neither born in county.
Wondering if they are related. Struggling to find anything else on these two

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Re: Mary Fortt (nee Fisk) brick wall... NEED Help!
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 19:16 BST (UK) »
Apparently, Mary's father was a Robert:

The Ipswich Journal 23 May 1846

13th inst, at Bath, aged 52 years, Mary, the beloved wife of Mr Fortt, and youngest daughter of the late Mr. Robert Risk, formerly of Badingham, farmer.

The date on the Findagrave entry mentioned in an earlier post would be the burial date.  Her son William is in the same grave.

The following may or may not be the same Robert:
Bury and Norwich Post 25 April 1827

On the 6th inst. at Framlingham, aged 74, Elizabeth, wife of Mr. Robert Fisk, formerly of Badingham, farmer.


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Re: Mary Fortt (nee Fisk) brick wall... NEED Help!
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 21:18 BST (UK) »
Defintely related somehow

1861 - Milsom St, Bath
All relationships are to an unnamed head of the household who is abroad

Emma E Fortt    34 - daughter
William Fortt    29
Emily W Fortt    23
Sophia Fisk    53 b Rendlesham, Suffolk, niece.  Confectioner's assistant
Mary Bucknell    33
Mary Hill    25
Elizabeth Genett    22
Ellen Gregory    16

RG 9; 1687; 110;  2;

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Re: Mary Fortt (nee Fisk) brick wall... NEED Help!
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 21:46 BST (UK) »
Have you searched for wills?

Somerset or Somersetshire has Anglo-Saxon origins.
Counties were the basis for the governance of England and later for Wales.
 Shires/counties were administrative areas. Some shires were based on ancient kingdoms.
 Each county sent 2 representatives to Parliament from medieval times. Knight of the shire was the formal title for a member of what became the English Parliament.
Each county had to provide a militia, comprising a certain number of soldiers in wartime. A county militia was a successor of the shire fyrds in the Anglo-Saxon era.
 A sheriff (from Old English shire-reeve) was a county official with administrative functions. English counties still have High Sheriffs.   

It would be rare to find a picture of someone who died in 1840s. 
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Re: Mary Fortt (nee Fisk) brick wall... NEED Help!
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 21:48 BST (UK) »

The Mary Fisk linked to this William Fisk had a document attached to her. It was a Very fancy looking marriage contract of sorts with wax stamps of approval from William Fisk the father and William Fortt the Husband.

The William Fisk on this document could well be a brother/uncle. No where does it say it is Mary's father.

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Re: Mary Fortt (nee Fisk) brick wall... NEED Help!
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 21:55 BST (UK) »
Have you noticed the living nextdoor to Mary and William on the 1841 census are a Sophia Fisk age 25 and a Francis Fisk age 60 neither born in county.
Wondering if they are related. Struggling to find anything else on these two

I have seen the William and Sophia Fisk thing. Ruth Fisk nee Jame William Fortt's 2nd wife had a Niece named Sophia Fisk that attended her wedding. Since Sophia's last name is Fisk I assume she is biologically related to a brother of her first Husband Thomas Samuel Fisk born (ABT. 1791 • Orsett, Essex, England died by suicide in OCTOBER 1843 • Paglesham, Essex, England) that is an assumption though. I don't know if this is William Fisk is the same William that is her father or this is the same Sophia Fisk but my assumption is yes.

My other Assumption is Thomas Samuel Fisk is related somehow to to Mary Fortt nee Fisk

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Re: Mary Fortt (nee Fisk) brick wall... NEED Help!
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 22:00 BST (UK) »
This is looking suggestive that Francis Fisk is Mary's older brother, and possibly father of Sophia (or uncle if not)

Francis Fisk
Baptism    9 Jul 1780     Ditchingham, Norfolk
Father:    Robert Fisk
Mother:    Elizabeth Fisk

Death?

FISK, FRANCIS
Age        68 
Q1 1849
PLOMESGATE  Volume 12  Page 297