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Re: Mary Hill b abt 1813-1816 Penzance area
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 11 June 22 05:41 BST (UK) »
I found the baptisms of the girls easy but the boys not so.

At the moment I can find Nicholas 9/11/1794 BUT he is buried 4/11/1795
so when I have more time I'll have another look.

How can we be certain that this death was an infant death? It may have been Nicholas Hill's father?
Burial records says he is the “son of Nicholas”.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Mary Hill b abt 1813-1816 Penzance area
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 11 June 22 06:15 BST (UK) »
I found the baptisms of the girls easy but the boys not so.

At the moment I can find Nicholas 9/11/1794 BUT he is buried 4/11/1795
so when I have more time I'll have another look.

How can we be certain that this death was an infant death? It may have been Nicholas Hill's father?
Burial records says he is the “son of Nicholas”.

thanks Neale
where did you find the original burial records?

Also note that a Nicholas Hill son of Nicholas Hill was still alive in 1810 as he is mentioned in the father's will (see previous post)

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Re: Mary Hill b abt 1813-1816 Penzance area
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 11 June 22 06:58 BST (UK) »
Could simply be an error by the cleric in the parish record. I note that Ralph and Ann Hill had a son named Nicholas born 1790 in the same parish - might be this child.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Mary Hill b abt 1813-1816 Penzance area
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 11 June 22 15:18 BST (UK) »
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: Mary Hill b abt 1813-1816 Penzance area
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 11 June 22 16:07 BST (UK) »
some registers are on FamilySearch

1795 burial
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01rm4/

transcribed on the opc database
https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=burials&id=924673

thanks for the tip on familysearch.org, I always find the site a bit tricky to navigate
much appreciated

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Re: Mary Hill b abt 1813-1816 Penzance area
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 11 June 22 20:14 BST (UK) »
you can search names from here
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1769414

and if there's a camera symbol, an image is attached.

 ;)
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Mary Hill b abt 1813-1816 Penzance area
« Reply #33 on: Friday 17 June 22 12:14 BST (UK) »
you can search names from here
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1769414

and if there's a camera symbol, an image is attached.

 ;)

Thank you!

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Re: Mary Hill b abt 1813-1816 Penzance area
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 18 June 22 07:10 BST (UK) »
The Nicholas married to Alice died in 1810 and left a will

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-65MS-S4F?i=2898&cat=329778

He mentions wife Alice, 7 children including sons Nicholas, Thomas and Ralph, brother Ralph, brother in law Thomas Brombley and Thomas Nekervis. He appears to have been a farmer as crops & livestock are mentioned.

I've been checking the Mary Hills who married in St Just in Penwith to see if one could be the daughter of Nicholas.
1. marriage 21 Dec 1828 to Christopher Roberts witnessed by William Hill - census shows this Mary to have been c. 1798

2. marriage 13 Nov 1836 to James Thomas, one witness being Thomas Hill. 1841 census has James & Mary Thomas in same house as Thomas & Jane Hill so baptism to Thomas & Jane Hill 28 June 1816.

3. marriage 11 June 1840, this Mary aged 20 and daughter of Ralph.

No likely parish burial for Mary baptised 1804 either.

The opc database has many transcribed records
https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/person-search/

Thanks for this osprey. I've now gone through each of these marriages and have accounted for them all in subsequent censuses. I also looked through all the marriages in the Penzance / St Just area 1825 up until 1840 and accounted for them. It would seem my relative Mary Hill never married before she arrived in Devon, which could have been connected somehow to the smuggling trade.