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Fed up with Ancestry
« on: Wednesday 20 April 22 12:09 BST (UK) »
Can anyone recommend a good decent alternative? I pay a monthly fee of about £14. They have introduced new tools which I hate. If you are familiar with them you will know what I’m talking about. You have to click on nearly every member in your tree for it to open for you to see who you have and it doesn’t stay open, which means you have to do it all over again. When you have finished up dating info for a said member instead of you going back to that member it takes you back to the beginning. I have spoken to them about this problem and they have admitted to me they have had complaints from others about the same thing. You can only talk to them you cannot email them and I feel that it’s falling on deaf ears.  I have suggested they give members an option on how our trees should look.

Which family tree soft ware do you use? Why do you think its the best and how much does it cost?
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Hambling. Mexter. Taylor. Bailey. Bolton. Boyse. Davenport. Fisher. Godfrey. Goff. Hawkins. Holmes. Jarvis. Joseph. Leek. Morgan. Osborne. Ross. Sharp. Webber.

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Re: Fed up with Ancestry
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 21 April 22 10:31 BST (UK) »
I work offline, using software which unfortunately is no longer available. The writer of The Master Genealogist had to stop work on it because of ill health. Websites are there to make locating data easier. I do have a couple of small trees on Ancestry which have special purposes, but My tree is MINE, not theirs.

I find the tree-building on Ancestry very clunky. They add only a small subset of the information in a record to the tree by default. The rest you need to add manually, and that takes a LONG time in order to produce a meaningful entry. They have also made strange choices as to what things are called. Why is a census called a "Residence" ?

FindMyPast's tree I find even clunkier. It demands dozens of mouse clicks, changing pages within an individual's records. Want to add the census info for the wife of the person you've just dealt with? Click on Relations. Click on the Spouse. Click on Facts. Their choice of what to include is different from Ancestry's; they suggest Age from a census entry rather than Relationship, for example. Accepting the Occupation entry from a census record will overwrite any previously saved Occupation. For no reason whatsoever, Address and Location are different things.

Neither system can cope with name changes, even though this is extremely common when women marry. My offline software can record dates alongside names. This lets me record the NINE different spellings of my ggg gf's surname (none of which match my own) with the records in which they appear. I can search for any of these and find him; this is not possible with the online trees.

Neither system has sensible reporting facilities, even for commonly used things like direct ancestors.

So look at the various software available for offline use. Most have a try-it-out-for-free version.

Try them with a small subset of your tree. See how easy they are to, say, enter all the details from a census for a family. Does the software make good use of keyboard shortcuts, and those function keys across the top of your keyboard which can't be used by any website because they belong to the browser?

My package, for example, uses F3 to bring back any one of about a dozen of the previous entries for any field when entering data. Some will remember that key having a very similar use in Ye Olde MS-DOS prompt. This makes entering the same address as the previous family member very fast.
Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

Census information is Crown Copyright. See www.nationalarchives.gov.uk for details.

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Re: Fed up with Ancestry
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 21 April 22 11:12 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your suggestions.
Please scan photos at 300dpi or higher. Thank you.


Hambling. Mexter. Taylor. Bailey. Bolton. Boyse. Davenport. Fisher. Godfrey. Goff. Hawkins. Holmes. Jarvis. Joseph. Leek. Morgan. Osborne. Ross. Sharp. Webber.

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http://hamblingfamily.tribalpages.com

http://taylorfamily1.tribalpages.com

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Re: Fed up with Ancestry
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 21 April 22 12:00 BST (UK) »
I use FamilySearch. I love the fact that it's one big tree that anyone can contribute to. As long as you have correct and clear evidence for your family members in the tree (not just from FamilySearch), then I find the branches I'm involved with, stay intact, and continue to be built on.

For me, I don't want my research to be lost in a drawer (figuratively speaking), if I one day decide to not continue my family research.

I also keep an offline version (Ancestral Quest) that links to the FamilySearch section of the tree specified.... as a backup just in case. I understand Ancestral Quest can be used with Ancestry too.

There's a free basic Ancestral Quest version and the paid version at around $35 USD one-time payment.

Although for me, I spend as much time writing about life events on particular family members (or a complete family) in MS Word based on the evidence I find. It can give a more complete picture of those moments in history that family tree builders don't capture. Unless of course, they are attached to the tree.

NORTON (Kent), KEECH (Dorset), MOOR / MOORE (Kent), HOCKING (Dorset / Somerset), LEVI (City of York), SANDWELL (Kent), CHAFFIN  (Dorset / Somerset), STRONG (Dorset)


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Re: Fed up with Ancestry
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 21 April 22 13:22 BST (UK) »
I'm sure sometime ago on a web site it said with your tree in family search anyone can alter by adding info or changing names that is one reason I have stayed clear of it. I myself do have a backup I also have my tree on tribalpages so every now and then I upload from ancestry by means of a gedcom file.

So I need a good a software  program that supports gedcom files.

Thank you for your reply and advice. 
Please scan photos at 300dpi or higher. Thank you.


Hambling. Mexter. Taylor. Bailey. Bolton. Boyse. Davenport. Fisher. Godfrey. Goff. Hawkins. Holmes. Jarvis. Joseph. Leek. Morgan. Osborne. Ross. Sharp. Webber.

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http://hamblingfamily.tribalpages.com

http://taylorfamily1.tribalpages.com

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Re: Fed up with Ancestry
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 21 April 22 16:17 BST (UK) »
So I need a good a software  program that supports gedcom files.

You would have quite a task finding software which doesn't support GEDCOM in some form or other.

However what the software does with the things it finds inside the GEDCOM can vary substantially. The specification allows various extensions to the basic format, and nearly every implementation uses these.

Ancestry generates records which relate to things inside its own databases rather than something a human would understand. This tends to keep you inside their world. Downloading a .ged from one user and uploading it as a different user keeps the pointers to the records intact. I think the same happens within FindMyPast too.

However if I upload a tree generated offline, using the official GEDCOM spec, Ancestry treats all my source references as "Unsourced Citation". My references can still be seen, but only by clicking on multiple links, which other users are not used to doing.
Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

Census information is Crown Copyright. See www.nationalarchives.gov.uk for details.

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Re: Fed up with Ancestry
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 23 April 22 12:52 BST (UK) »
Ancestry have just done up dates. I wanted to download a gedcom file which is easy to do so I thought as I have done this many times. This time it has failed at just tells me it might take some time 24 hours later and it is stuck on 0% so I phoned ancestry only to be told that the new updates no longer support windows 7 and I need to get windows 10. I hate windows 10 I have tried it and it sucks. So now I have ancestry with a month subscription and it is no good to me.  I have canceled my subscription and they can go to hell.

Any suggestions?
Please scan photos at 300dpi or higher. Thank you.


Hambling. Mexter. Taylor. Bailey. Bolton. Boyse. Davenport. Fisher. Godfrey. Goff. Hawkins. Holmes. Jarvis. Joseph. Leek. Morgan. Osborne. Ross. Sharp. Webber.

Websites
http://hamblingfamily.tribalpages.com

http://taylorfamily1.tribalpages.com

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Re: Fed up with Ancestry
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 23 April 22 13:54 BST (UK) »
the new updates no longer support windows 7 and I need to get windows 10.

It is not the version of Windows they don't support, but the browser. They only care about the bit they interact with; the OS is irrelevant.

There are several decent browsers which are still supported on Win7, including Microsoft's own Edge, which, like Google Chrome, is based on Chromium.
Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

Census information is Crown Copyright. See www.nationalarchives.gov.uk for details.

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 23 April 22 14:44 BST (UK) »
They support Chrome which I use. I think there is something fishy going on with them. At present I can't find any other genealogy software program that I like and I have looked at a few.  I have my heritage at the moment on my pc and I’m confused with it all.
Please scan photos at 300dpi or higher. Thank you.


Hambling. Mexter. Taylor. Bailey. Bolton. Boyse. Davenport. Fisher. Godfrey. Goff. Hawkins. Holmes. Jarvis. Joseph. Leek. Morgan. Osborne. Ross. Sharp. Webber.

Websites
http://hamblingfamily.tribalpages.com

http://taylorfamily1.tribalpages.com