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Re: My maternal grandmother's origins
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 21 April 22 01:13 BST (UK) »
In 1939 she was 5 years old, living in a place called Wednesbury and named Palmer.
I know she was in All Saint's Hospital in Birmingham at some point after having my mother in 1967 but cannot find anything about that.

You won't find anything for 1967 unless Electoral Rolls.

Apart from that, there will be no record of her birth name on any hospital records as she was adopted & brought up by her adoptive name & surname.

Equally, Adoption birth records are not on the usual GRO index, they're a separate index.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: My maternal grandmother's origins
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 21 April 22 01:21 BST (UK) »
@Rosinish/Annie,

Separate index? Could you please expand on that?
She wasn't adopted until she was 2 years old

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Re: My maternal grandmother's origins
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 21 April 22 01:49 BST (UK) »
@Rosinish/Annie,

Separate index? Could you please expand on that?
She wasn't adopted until she was 2 years old

You know what her adoptive name is, have you found an entry on the GRO for her with that name 2 yrs after she was born i.e. when she was 're-registered' in her adoptive/new name & surname?

The Adoption Registers & Still Birth Registers aren't available to the public like the GRO Birth Index is, all are separate.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: My maternal grandmother's origins
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 21 April 22 01:56 BST (UK) »
She was Palmer from 1936 up until she married my grandfather and became Lander, its the period between her birth in 1934 and her adoption in 1936 that is the question.


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Re: My maternal grandmother's origins
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 21 April 22 02:17 BST (UK) »
its the period between her birth in 1934 and her adoption in 1936 that is the question.

I'm unsure of the 'question' between 1934 & 1936 i.e. what you mean? sorry.

Annie

South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: My maternal grandmother's origins
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 21 April 22 03:10 BST (UK) »
"'occasional copy' in the search results...

These are going to be instances where the original registration has been amended in some way, requiring an “occasional copy” to be sent to the Registrar General (ie to supersede the original Quarterly Certified Copy).

They won’t be late registrations, which would be sent in with the Quarterly Certified returns for the relevant quarter."

If this was my dilemma, with the time it would take to order a DNA Kit, receive it, return it then await the results, for the price of the original BC, I'd order it!

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: My maternal grandmother's origins
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 21 April 22 12:48 BST (UK) »
There is a woman by the name of, Annie Palmer Collett (known as Nellie) who was the sister of my grandmother's adoptive mother, Dora Mercy Collet and there is some possibility that she was the mother and Dora and Thomas Wilson Palmer (who she married) adopted my grandmother

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She’s Nancy Palmer Collett b 1905 on 1921 census living in Parish of Wednesbury with her sister Dora Mercy b1900  and their parents Richard Henry Collett & Eliza Annie ( nee PALMER)

1939 Register Annie Palmer WOOD living with her parents and husband and
one other person whose record is closed

Annie P Collett
Sep 1938 Wednesbury Staffordshire
Spouse:   Walter T Wood
Volume Number:   6b Page Number:   2245

West Midlands BMD
   
COLLETT   Annie P
WOOD   Walter T
1938   Wednesbury, St Bartholomew

COLLETT   Dora M   
PALMER   Thomas W   
1930   Wednesbury, St Bartholomew

Annie Palmer Wood Death Age:   85 Birth 4 Mar 1905
Mar 1990 Sandwell West Midlands
Volume:   33 Page:   1317
Died 27 Feb 1990 of 16 Pritchard St Wednesbury
Administration with Will Birmingham 26 March

Parents married 25 Dec 1899 Wednesbury, St Paul

Eliza Ann Palmer Age:   23
Residence Place: 8 Vicarage Road
Father:   Josiah Palmer
Spouse:   Richard Henry Collett
Residence Place: Hobbis Hole
Religion:   Anglican
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Re: My maternal grandmother's origins
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 21 April 22 16:16 BST (UK) »
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Re: My maternal grandmother's origins
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 21 April 22 16:18 BST (UK) »
DNA or apply for her full adoption file  Everything else is speculation until you do one or the othe.   You need to start with what you know - her birthdate & her adoption details.

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