Henry Heaney - were there 2 or did he have 2 wives and families?

[majm]

Agh .... I see the mis-transcription .... Robert HEANEY aged 18, on the Mandarin ....   

JM

[Dundee]

In 1844 There is a Henry Heaney arriving with his presumed older brother Hugh, who were born in Cavan, Ireland onboard "The Wallace". I thought woohoo! but...this record is attached to another Henry Heaney on many Ancestry trees who married a Catherine McCarthy on the 29 Sep 1846 at St James' Church, Melbourne.

2. In Deniliquin Gaol in 1871 age 49 for larceny of a cheque

I think you can safely assume that the Collingwood Henry was not stealing cheques in Hay in 1871, so did not arrive on the Wallace.

The description of 'large nose and mouth' could fit your Henry if the photo attached to family trees is indeed him, but it is not very clear.

Someone is sending cheques from Hay to Ballarat in 1870/71.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/197560519

Another case of a letter containing money being lost in-course of transit through the Post-office is notified in the Police Qazette as follows:—Stolen in course of transit by post between Hay, N. S. Wales and Ballarat, about the 20th September last, a letter addressed “Ellen H. Heaney, care of Mr Searl draper, Ligar street, Ballarat,” containing two £1 notes, on the Bank of Victoria, Melbourne...

Debra  [/list]

[judb]

This is a silly question as I'm sure you'd have thought of it - are there any clues on Ellen's death certificate?

Judith

[sparrett]

1. Grazing cattle in 1870 in Ballarat
2. In Deniliquin Gaol in 1871 age 49 for larceny of a cheque
3. Cab Horse racing in 1873
4. In 1878 there was a Henry Heaney working as a shepherd in Buckimguy, Mara Creek, New South Wales. This is near Dubbo where his eldest son, George was a carpenter/builder.
5. dying in Kew Asylum in 1894 but the problem with this is that this Henry was 41 and in 1894 my Henry was 74. This could have been his son Brigham who preferred Henery as a name but Brigham was 36 when he died.
6. living in Jolimont aged 86 working as a carter

 
Kind Regards
Kim

Please note that on the marriage certificate between Henry and Ellen, Ellen who was perfectly literate (as evidenced by the book in her hand in the photo), signed her name as Helen MOONEY. So to .....

Sighting 4

George HEANEY Carpenter of Dubbo died in 1938
His parents recorded as Henry and Helen #16711

This is his death notice.
His age at death matches his birth index, as does his parents names
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/160914107


Sighting number 5
"......dying in Kew Asylum in 1894 but the problem with this is that this Henry was 41 and in 1894 my Henry was 74. This could have been his son Brigham who preferred Henery as a name but Brigham was 36 when he died."

He died in 1897
No, Brigham Henry whose Victorian will is  digitized died in Ballarat and his remains were taken from his home there to the Ballarat Cemetery. The Kew asylum person is not relevant I think.
Death notice
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/210359793

 A note for your  interest..
When Arthur HEANEY’s house burnt in Ballarat in 1898, his aged mother was in the house alone . He was a bacon curer of Ballarat. 
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/9787217

The year of her death was also 1898.

Sue

[Dundee]

Please note that on the marriage certificate between Henry and Ellen, Ellen who was perfectly literate (as evidenced by the book in her hand in the photo), signed her name as Helen MOONEY.

I think she signed with her mark x.  The handwriting of the minister in the body of the cert is the same.  Irving Hetherington was Scots so you would expect him to name her as Helen instead of Ellen.

Debra 

[sparrett]

Mmm.. yes I agree about the handwriting being very much the same, but I would usually expect the words "her mark".
I do see a little x.

Anyhow, it's Helen. 
Perhaps the volume in the photo is intended to show she is a pious woman. A Bible?

Sue

[kdsoph]

" I have his birthplace from 2 of his children's birth certificates."

From the the birth certificate, 1865, Frederick William Heaney, informant Ellen HEANEY, gives birthplace of Henry HEANEY to  be County Cavan. Ellen is giving the birthplace information.

Which other birth certificate records birthplace for Henry HEANEY, and who is the informant?

This is their 5th child, Arthur Henry Heany's birth cert. It looks like Henry is the informant. 

[kdsoph]

If Ellen HEANEY was left with a large family when her husband Henry left them, how did Ellen support her children?

The death certificate for Brigham Henry HEANEY, died 1897, is difficult to read. What information is given for parents....who is the informant?  Where is Brigham buried?


"In 1887 he was in QLD according to his daughter Matilda Brash's marriage certificate"

I am familiar with a marriage certificate that records names of parents, but not the location of parents.

Can you transcribe the wording that includes this information.

I have no idea how Ellen supported her family except for her receiving cheques in the mail. (one didn't arrive 1871. This is the same year that Henry was convicted of stealing a cheque and sent to gaol. see attached)


Brigham died suddenly of Cardiac Syncope in Norman Street, Ballarat 1897, 1 year after the Bacon Curing business burnt down in 1896. No informant but I would say it would have been his wife, Georgina Ann or the medical assistant. His parents are listed as Henry Heany, Bacon Curer and Ellen Elizabeth Heany nee Cooney. (so the informant wasn't his mother). Brigham was buried in Ballarat New Cemetery. His mother shares his plot.

I think we need to disregard the comment I made about Matilda's marriage certificate as I have spent ages trying to find where I got that gem from 

[kdsoph]

Is this the source of the story about Henry HEANEY leaving his family?

The Ballarat Star 3 Jul 1867 p4
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/112876162?
Wife Desertion.—Henry HEANEY, charged with having deserted his wife, was discharged, as the wife did not press the case against him.

Yes, this is one source but I had another who now seems lost to me.  ...

I had correspondence with another family member years ago who has a "Private" tree on Ancestry. She is not known to me but had all of these certificates which she shared. I then matched them up to the Trove articles and pieced them all together. Now I have come back to Henry, found there was ANOTHER Henry and so I wrote to her to try and sort it out once and for all but I have had no reply, unfortunately. She is also the one who told me that family legend says Ellen and Henry split due to "religious differences" which sent me careering down the path that these 2 Henrys may be the same man leading a double life.


NB: I think she is the one who told me that Matilda said her father was in QLD on her marriage cert. but I have not seen that document.