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Offline Zaphod99

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Is this very unethical or a common sense opportunity?
« on: Sunday 10 April 22 17:34 BST (UK) »
It's not really a technical DNA  question, rather one of morals, so I put it it here.

I 'look out for' a very old aunt who is obsessed with being covid tested.  I'd love her to do a DNA test, but she doesn't actually approve.  What if I was a bit tricky? She wouldn't know if I swabbed her with a covid one or a DNA cheek(y) one.  I can see two points of view.

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Re: Is this very unethical or a common sense opportunity?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 10 April 22 17:50 BST (UK) »
Totally unethical in my opinion......... I would be more than livid if ANYONE tried that one on me especially if I had already said no/didn't approve
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Re: Is this very unethical or a common sense opportunity?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 10 April 22 18:03 BST (UK) »
I completely agree with iluleah.

Presumably the same person you posted about here  :-\
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=835210.0
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Re: Is this very unethical or a common sense opportunity?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 10 April 22 18:05 BST (UK) »
Might also be illegal to obtain someone's DNA without their consent, against their express wishes and by deception.

Actually in the U.K. it would be illegal, and with good reason.
https://easydna.co.uk/knowledge-base/human-tissues-act-paternity-testing/#:~:text=Why%20is%20important%20the%20Human,will%20be%20breaking%20the%20law.
If you take a sample of DNA from another person without given consent, even the smallest DNA sample, would be considered a breach of the law.
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Re: Is this very unethical or a common sense opportunity?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 10 April 22 18:09 BST (UK) »
Quote from: rosie99 on Sunday 10 April 22 18:03 BST (UK)
Presumably the same person you posted about here  :-\
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=835210.0

Well, it just gets worse doesn't it  :-\
I can't understand how it goes from 'help an elderly relative with the post that she receives' to finding an old letter 'dated 1967.'

Now you are thinking about getting a relative's DNA (doesn't matter if this is the same elderly relation as in other thread).  ::)
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Re: Is this very unethical or a common sense opportunity?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 10 April 22 18:21 BST (UK) »
Very unethical. A liberty is being taken by you if you try and get someone's DNA without their consent, on top of wanting to pilfer a letter from maybe the same relative from 55 years ago.
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Re: Is this very unethical or a common sense opportunity?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 10 April 22 18:29 BST (UK) »
Wow ....  you are attempting to control another person's free will.   

DO NOT CHEAT. 

Pause and step away from your family history efforts for say six months,  go learn a new pasttime. 

YOU DO NOT HAVE EXPRESS AUTHORITY TO TAKE DNA SAMPLE,  so do NOT even let the thought linger in your mind.

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Re: Is this very unethical or a common sense opportunity?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 10 April 22 18:46 BST (UK) »
I agree with the others and think it's totally unethical.



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Re: Is this very unethical or a common sense opportunity?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 10 April 22 18:52 BST (UK) »
I totally think unethical, what are you thinking? It is hers, not yours! If she is not a willing participant leave it.
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