Is this very unethical or a common sense opportunity?

[Zaphod99]

No it's not the same person. On ethics, I can't believe people who, look back at earlier comments.

It won't harm my aunt, and our descendants would benefit. And it's only her old ideas that put her off. You've given me thoughts though. I can't believe so many (%) are against it.  I wonder how many have had my idea, world wide.  Many people try to get round the rules, in countries like France where DNA testing isn't allowed.  Nobody gives that a second thought.

Zaph

[Crumblie]

I think it is not only unethical but illegal as well, it is certainly against the rules of all the main family history sites to use a person's DNA without their consent. I believe that even law enforcement agencies have to be given permission to use Ancestry and that does not include the UK.

[majm]

I am in New South Wales, Australia. 

May I ask you to please explain why

a) you seem to  think it is wrong for anyone to  look back at earlier comments

and

b) why people would try to get around the rules re DNA testing  .... France etc.

Many thanks,

JM 

No it's not the same person. On ethics, I can't believe people who, look back at earlier comments.

It won't harm my aunt, and our descendants would benefit. And it's only her old ideas that put her off. You've given me thoughts though. I can't believe so many (%) are against it.  I wonder how many have had my idea, world wide.  Many people try to get round the rules, in countries like France where DNA testing isn't allowed.  Nobody gives that a second thought.

Zaph

[Cas (stallc)]

It is not about harming your aunt, but the unethical approach to obtaining her DNA. It is wrong on lots of levels, I am shocked you would consider an underhand level without her consent.

Bodily autonomy is hers, you have no right to take that away. Just because you want maybe some info on family history from her. Please get a grip. She chooses no, so no it is.

[Erato]

Don't do it.  It's just wrong.  Engage her in conversation about her childhood memories, instead.

[Maiden Stone]

I agree with Erato. Also with Crumblie and Cas(stallc).

[suey]

I have read both threads and am almost lost for words. Totally unethical. 

Her ‘old ideas’ , I’m shaking my head at that statement, you speak as though because she’s getting on in years her thoughts and beliefs are meaningless .  Put yourself in her place, I hope for your sake that when you reach a certain age that your family give more consideration to your wishes and feelings.

[Cas (stallc)]

I have read both threads and am almost lost for words. Totally unethical. 

Her ‘old ideas’ , I’m shaking my head at that statement, you speak as though because she’s getting on in years her thoughts and beliefs are meaningless .  Put yourself in her place, I hope for your sake that when you reach a certain age that your family give more consideration to your wishes and feelings.

I agree, glad this person is not one of mine. Feel sorry for her. Not a beloved aunt but a
 potential link to the past via DNA. Why would they treat her wishes so?

[mam i ddau]

not only unethical,  but in the UK this could be considered abusive, as its not treating her with dignity,  and if she does not have capacity to make such a decision, an abuse of power.