Severn or Severns, Birkin link help.

[heywood]

That’s interesting Dizzifish - another Birkin connection.

It is confusing, yes. 

We tried in the other thread to look at the trees that shadowwind2112 was looking at and sift out the various family lines.

Two Williams were found - Codnor and Greasley. Hopefully, shadowwind2112 will have seen the findings and let us know if it was helpful.

The trees seem to have mixed up various folk.

[trish1120]

Yes I posted about the 2 Williams on the 9th of April;

I followed Hildas line back on Census to William Severn/Elizabeth Parkin.

Is this what you have?

1820 Marriage is on FreeREG Elizabeth a Minor and Marriage with consent of Parents.
Witnesses, Ann Severn/Isaac Parkin/Mary Parkin/Thomas Thorpe

William/Elizabeth had a mass bapt for their children 30 June 1837 Heanor
William/Isaac/Hannah/George/James/Joseph
(exact birth dates of children are there also eg William 27 Apr 1828)

On Census William is born c 1797 Codnor (1871 with Son Edwin)
Someone has him born Greasley 1861 Census but THAT William appears to be unm to me from Census.

1861 we have him as  William Severn   65 born Codnor, Widr, FWK

So if I have this right as of 1797ish no connection to Greasley, Notts


Trish

[shadowwind2112]

Yes I posted about the 2 Williams on the 9th of April;

I followed Hildas line back on Census to William Severn/Elizabeth Parkin.

Is this what you have?

1820 Marriage is on FreeREG Elizabeth a Minor and Marriage with consent of Parents.
Witnesses, Ann Severn/Isaac Parkin/Mary Parkin/Thomas Thorpe

William/Elizabeth had a mass bapt for their children 30 June 1837 Heanor
William/Isaac/Hannah/George/James/Joseph
(exact birth dates of children are there also eg William 27 Apr 1828)

On Census William is born c 1797 Codnor (1871 with Son Edwin)
Someone has him born Greasley 1861 Census but THAT William appears to be unm to me from Census.

1861 we have him as  William Severn   65 born Codnor, Widr, FWK

So if I have this right as of 1797ish no connection to Greasley, Notts


Trish

Are you sure about that, because this tree, says the opposite,

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/163334478/family/familyview?cfpid=182331196661

[heywood]

To add to Trish’s post.

Somewhere I posted this and reposted it somewhere too 
The tree has the right William but has him born Greasley for the tree purpose.

This is perhaps based on an 1861 entry for William b Greasley but that is the wrong census.

From your other thread - here  is my post about the two Williams - one born Codnor and one born Greasley

Looking at the two trees you have posted - yours and a.n.other, is it William Severn c 1797 that is causing the concern?

1851 2125/441/18

William 55 yrs b Codnor with wife Elizabeth and youngest son Edwin.

1851 2125 /230/8

William 54 yrs b Greasley with wife Ellen and several children.

Both Codnor and Greasley are in the sub registration Greasley and registration district Basford.

So in 1851, there are the two Williams and families.

[heywood]

What have you found for 1861?

These are the two Williams

1861 2431 /53/2
Codnor, Derbys

William Severn   widower 65 yrs Wook FWK b Codnor

1861 2434 /82/6
Greasley, Notts
William Severn unmarried  64 yrs Cotton GpfWK b Greasley

The tree you are relying on has used the 1861 census for William b Greasley  but the earlier censuses and 1871 Willam b Codnor.

I think there may be a difficulty in tracing the correct baptisms.

[trish1120]

Yes from what I can see there are 2.

Sorry signing out so will look at this again when I can.

It was a few days ago so was just going from my memory of what I found and dont have time to go back and look at Census etc now.

Trish

[trish1120]

You just posted as I did heywood, thanks for that

[heywood]

I didn’t want to repeat your work but is presented slightly differently but with same conclusions 

[CaroleW]

Are you sure about that, because this tree, says the opposite

As advised on your previous thread - the trees you are looking at contain many inaccuracies.  Those inaccuracies are well documented by various RC members in that thread.   

Have you read those replies and researched the details given?

If you are still uncertain - perhaps you need to contact the actual tree owners and discuss the content of their trees with them in the light of the replies you have received as we just appear to be going over the same ground covered in your earlier thread