Author Topic: DNA Match conundrum  (Read 920 times)

Offline msfarrar

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 64
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
DNA Match conundrum
« on: Monday 04 April 22 01:25 BST (UK) »
In Myheritage DNA matches  I am a distant DNA to person A.  Person B is a shared match to both of us.
Person A and I are a also a distant shared match to person C
To clarify:

DNA Matches
  Me--Person A
  Me--Person B
  Person A -- Person B
  Person A --Person C
  Me--Person C

The freaky thing is that Person B is a distant relative on my Mums side of the family and Person C is a distant relative on my dads side!! How can person A be related to me via distant ancestors on both my mum and dads side ?!

I know that this it is theoretically possible, especially if both families lived in the same part of the country. Thats an obvious explanation.
However my shared common ancestors with person B lived in Cumbria and my shared common ancestors with person C lived in Hertfordshire or Lincolnshire, so given the fact that back in the early 1800's the two families lived in completely different parts of the country make it very very very unlikely. It would be such a massive coincidence .. so I think that there is a bug in myheritage DNA matching.. This is driving me nuts!   

Offline PaulineJ

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 16,359
    • View Profile
Re: DNA Match conundrum
« Reply #1 on: Monday 04 April 22 08:37 BST (UK) »
In early 1800s I've got family moving about here, there and everywhere.

Hampshire to Derbyshire
Staffordshire to London (and onto Yorkshire)
Yorkshire to London
Berkshire to Wales and then to Kent.

It's really not that big of a surprise
All census look up transcriptions are Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/
======================================
We are not a search engine. We are human beings.

Offline Gadget

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 57,896
    • View Profile
Re: DNA Match conundrum
« Reply #2 on: Monday 04 April 22 09:09 BST (UK) »
As Pauline says, it's perfectly possible.

When you say a 'Distant match' what amount of DNA (in cMs) do you share with them?   

Also, have you run the chromosome browser facility in My Heritage to show  triangulation?

Gadget
Census &  BMD information Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and GROS - www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

***Restorers - Please do not use my restores without my permission. Thanks***

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=877762.0

Offline brigidmac

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,490
  • Computer incompetent but stiil trying
    • View Profile
Re: DNA Match conundrum
« Reply #3 on: Monday 04 April 22 12:45 BST (UK) »
It only takes one great great uncle maternal  to go to another area and link up with a great great uncle of the paternal side for there to be a match

Unless you have investigated the lives of  all the siblings in each generation the link could appear impossible . My father's family were in quite a small area of Scotland for generations but one great great uncle went off to Canada to mine gold . He must have linked up with an even more distant relative of my mother's in  northern USA we do know that a branch of the family went out  in early 1800.s.
I don't know how unusual it is but I doubt it would be a DNA bug
Roberts,Fellman.Macdermid smith jones,Bloch,Irvine,Hallis Stevenson


Offline LizzieL

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 9,113
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: DNA Match conundrum
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 April 22 14:51 BST (UK) »

The freaky thing is that Person B is a distant relative on my Mums side of the family and Person C is a distant relative on my dads side!! How can person A be related to me via distant ancestors on both my mum and dads side ?!


I've got a match like that. Mum's family from south coast - Hants/ Dorset and Dad's family from Berks / Oxon, so some distance apart.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

Offline Maiden Stone

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,226
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: DNA Match conundrum
« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 April 22 23:49 BST (UK) »

However my shared common ancestors with person B lived in Cumbria and my shared common ancestors with person C lived in Hertfordshire or Lincolnshire, so given the fact that back in the early 1800's the two families lived in completely different parts of the country make it very very very unlikely. It would be such a massive coincidence .   

Britain was having a major war for the first 15 years of the 19th century. Young men were going here, there & everywhere, as soldiers, sailors or militia (last was equivalent of Home guard or Territorial Army).
War was followed by several years of economic depression and unemployment - more potential reasons for  people to leave home.
England was the first country in the world to industrialise, another reason for movement of people.
England was first country to have railways, from 1830s. Engineers, builders and labourers to construct the lines & stations, some of the workforce coming from outside the area. Once opened they enabled faster transport. Canal network from previous century.
An important industry in Cumberland was mining. It attracted workers from far afield. When one type of mining or a mining region was declining and another type or region was expanding, miners would migrate.
Btw the name of the county is Cumberland. "Cumbria" didn't exist 200 years ago. Cumbria isn't a county. It's a local government unit created in 1974, comprising Cumberland, Westmorland, part of Lancashire and part of Yorkshire.

Are you sure your mothers and father's trees and other trees with matches are all correct?   
Cowban