Woolleys of Liverpool or Broxton, Cheshire

[idyia14]

Thanks. That so much looks like the right family. They must have had another child named Hilda later on. I'll have to see if I can find a birth in the BMD.

[DCB]

There is another record for the death of Hilda Mary. It was under the Cheshire Workhouse Records, and has her death as 5th June 1896, age 11 months, daughter of John of Bulkeley, although it has him as a farmer.

Strange coincidence but this tree has a picture of all of Angela Trimarco's siblings and parents, but the wrong John Woolley.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/111450485/family/familyview?cfpid=252152897980&dtid=100

However, the person who created it doesn't seem to be related to them, but he has a DNA match with me.

I will send him a message, to see if he can be of any help.

David

[heywood]

That sounds interesting David. I hope you can solve the mystery.

Can you see Mary Woolley anywhere in 1911? John and children are boarding and Elsie is a servant elsewhere.

[DCB]

One tree has her as Mary (Polly), i.e. the one shown as Polly in 1911. I can't find another Hilda birth.

David

[heywood]

No, sorry, I mean mother Mary.
I wrote earlier that Polly is a pet name for Mary.

[heywood]

I wonder if Hilda was not a child of John and Mary.

There is a birth in 1913 in Chester district for Hilda Woolley with mother’s name Woolley.

The only person might be Elsie but she would only be 15/16 yrs so may be not.

1921 index shows Hilda Wooley b 1913, Chester living in Bootle with a Williams family.
 
She could though have been registered with a different name and called Hilda later.

[DCB]

I can't find anything about Mary after 1901 but I have found her baptism. All needs checking.

29th December 1875 in Burwardsley, daughter of James, a Shoemaker, and Mary.

I believe that the marriage of her parents was:-
James Jones, widower age 46, Shoemaker of Crewe, son of Samuel Jones, deceased,
Married Mary Price, spinster age 38, of Crewe, daughter of Charles Price, deceased
in Crewe on 9th July 1872
Witnesses: John Price and Margaret Ann Reeves.

I am not sure about their ancestry, but there was a Mary Price, daughter of Charles and Sarah, baptised in Burwardsley on 4th June 1835. However, she doesn't seem to be with them on the censuses.

I think this is James in 1861:-
Lower Town, Burwardsley
James Jones Head 38 1823 Shoemaker Halton, Flintshire, Wales
Lydia Jones Wife 34 1827 Shoemakers wife Willington, Flintshire, Wales
Martha Jones Daughter 8 1853 Scholar Burwardsley, Cheshire
James Jones Son 6 1855 Scholar Burwardsley, Cheshire
John Jones Son 4 1857 Scholar Burwardsley, Cheshire

And 1871 with different birth places:-
Fowlers Bench, Burwardsley
James Jones Head 50 1821 Shoemaker - Shropshire
Lydia Jones Wife 44 1827 - Shropshire
Martha Jones Daughter 18 1853 - Cheshire
James Jones Son 15 1856 - Cheshire
John Jones Son 13 1858 - Cheshire

Lydia was buried in Burwardlsey on 1st June 1871, age 46

James Jones, son of James, married Lydia Shone, daughter of Edward, on 26th December 1844 in Wrexham, Denbighshire.

David

[idyia14]

I have spoken to the family again - and gleaned a bit more information! Georgina was also John's sibling along with Angela and Edward. She was born after her father died in 1936. She married (Tulett) and immigrated to Australia in 1957. Angela married (Rogers) and lived in Liverpool but has since died. Edward died as an infant.

I think that the family tree on Ancestry.com has the wrong John Woolley as I asked why they were sure he died in 1936 aged 32. They have a photo of the gravestone which John Christopher took on a return trip to England. It also has Edward's death recorded on it. On the back it says "Yew Tree cemetery" which is Catholic (Angela Trimarco was Catholic) but I couldn't find it in FindaGrave. I will try and attach the photo to this post.

[garstonite]

I am about 6 miles from Yew Tree Cemetery - if you can find a grave number I can have a look