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Woolleys of Liverpool or Broxton, Cheshire
« on: Saturday 26 March 22 08:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I am trying to trace the ancestors of John Woolley, born about 1904 in Liverpool. He died in 1936 aged 32 years. In 1926 he married Angela Maria Trimarco in Liverpool. She is believed to be of Italian descent. They had 3 children, John Christopher (1927), Angela M. (1929) and Edward J. (1931). 

John (born ~1904) had sisters Elsie, May, Hilda and Mabel who had daughters Joan, Nora, Freda and Eileen - cousins to John (born 1927), but I don't know which daughter belongs to which of the mothers, nor who the mothers' spouses were.

John's (born ~1904) mother lived in Blackburn Street, Liverpool until she died in 1936. The rest of the family moved to Broxton, Cheshire at some point.

I would like to know who John's (born ~1904) parents were - I haven't been able to get a copy of their marriage entry yet, because of slow postage to Australia (where I live) due to Covid restrictions and I haven't been able to find anything concrete in the Census records.

I will also post this in the Cheshire section of the Forum.

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Re: Woolleys of Liverpool or Broxton, Cheshire
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 26 March 22 08:49 GMT (UK) »
Possible 1911 census - 28 Hardy Street,

Alfred Price Woolley - 42, Anne Phillip - 41, Ellen Anne, Mabel Edith, Ruth May, John Alfred - 7, George Henry and Edith Gertrude.

Parents married 19 years - 6 children, all living.  Everyone born Liverpool.  There is a marriage in Liverpool - September quarter 1892 - Alfred Price Woolley and Anne Phillips Jones.



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Re: Woolleys of Liverpool or Broxton, Cheshire
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 26 March 22 08:55 GMT (UK) »
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John Woolley, born about 1904 in Liverpool

Several trees on Ancestry record Angela Trimarco's first husband as John Edward Woolley born 1893.

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Re: Woolleys of Liverpool or Broxton, Cheshire
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 26 March 22 09:02 GMT (UK) »
Birth September qtr 1893
West Derby Registration District     vol 8b, page 542

Woolley, John Edward


GRO Search shows Mother's maiden name as Jones.
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Re: Woolleys of Liverpool or Broxton, Cheshire
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 26 March 22 09:13 GMT (UK) »
Just replied to same on Cheshire board:

There are trees online which have Angela marrying John Edward Woolley, with photographs of both, but he was born on 24th June 1893.

His parents were John J Woolley and Elizabeth Owen.

1901: 31, Scourfield Street, West Derby, Lancashire
John J Woolley Head Married Male 34 1867 Brewers carter Liverpool
Elizabeth Woolley Wife Married Female 35 1866 - Liverpool
Annie Woolley Daughter - Female 12 1889 - Liverpool
Frank Woolley Son - Male 11 1890 - Liverpool
Mary Woolley Daughter - Female 9 1892 - Liverpool
John E Woolley Son - Male 7 1894 - Liverpool
William Hy Woolley Son - Male 6 1895 - Liverpool
Thomas A Woolley Son - Male 5 1896 - Liverpool
Samuel F Woolley Son - Male 3 1898 - Liverpool
Ernest Woolley Son - Male 1 1900 - Liverpool
Walter Woolley Son - Male 0 1901 - Liverpool
Ernest Woolley Son - Male 1 1900 - Liverpool
Walter Woolley Son - Male 0 1901 - Liverpool

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Re: Woolleys of Liverpool or Broxton, Cheshire
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 26 March 22 09:27 GMT (UK) »
Possible 1911 census - 28 Hardy Street,

Alfred Price Woolley - 42, Anne Phillip - 41, Ellen Anne, Mabel Edith, Ruth May, John Alfred - 7, George Henry and Edith Gertrude.

Parents married 19 years - 6 children, all living.  Everyone born Liverpool.  There is a marriage in Liverpool - September quarter 1892 - Alfred Price Woolley and Anne Phillips Jones.

John Alfred Woolley is an executor for Alfred Price Woolley in 1944,  so can’t be him

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Re: Woolleys of Liverpool or Broxton, Cheshire
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 March 22 09:36 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I found the 1911 census record for Alfred Price Woolley. A couple of the girls names tie up (May and Mabel) and maybe Ellen was called Elsie? but it's not quite enough to definitely know I have the right family. I have found the GRO index record for John Alfred, Liverpool. 8b 91 so that ties up with the register of death. It would really help to know what was on the marriage entry! Perhaps I'll just have to be patient and wait for the mail!

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Re: Woolleys of Liverpool or Broxton, Cheshire
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 26 March 22 09:37 GMT (UK) »
Oh, that sounds as if the Alfred Price Woolley family has been ruled out.

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Re: Woolleys of Liverpool or Broxton, Cheshire
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 26 March 22 09:56 GMT (UK) »
Is the year of death for the mother definitely 1936? Just checking it’s not a typo as same year as death of John.

How do you know the year of death for John?