Timms Family photo from 1887 - details on lapel pin

[stormi]

All I can do is appologise for offending anyone, I don't quite understand what I've done wrong, I was quite enjoying all the detective work along the way.

My conclusion of the thread:
I guess we collectively managed to solve the lapel badge mystery, finding what it was, Leicestershire Yeomanry. We also managed to discover William H was in the Leicestershire Yeomanry (same badge)

But I guess it will have to go down as unsolved for who is actually in the photo. Even though he is wearing the Leicestershire Yeomanry badge (territorial army of the day) And William H is listed as being a member, everyone thinks he looks too young in the photo to have been born in 1872.

The man looks very much like both William and Edward, but as people have pointed out, William seems a little too old and Edward has different ears.

Thank you all for helping me along the way,
Kind regards,

[Gadget]

I'm coming back on the thread to try to tie this down as I don't like maybes.

You've introduced the possibility of  grandchildren for William H.

Can you give information about his occupation; his wife (name and date and place of marriage);  his children; any grandchildren (names, and dates of birth). 

[stormi]

I'm coming back on the thread to try to tie this down as I don't like maybes.

You've introduced the possibility of  grandchildren for William H.

Can you give information about his occupation; his wife (name and date and place of marriage);  his children; any grandchildren (names, and dates of birth).

Hi Gadget,

Thank you. As far as I know he worked in administration for a car company, Rover I think. Even from the earliest days he was down as being a book-keeper for a store. All his family details will be in the following image. Cheers.

[Gadget]

Thank you.
It will take me a while to follow them all on census/BMD/etc. I'm sure there are some more people  there somewhere.
I see that it looks like an Ancestry tree so I might explore if it's public. Also, I assume the other brothers are listed there.
I've checked and re-checked my dating books  and the clothing and style are definitely late 1910s- early 1920s. I even have a photo of my father and his brothers in very early 1920s wearing that type of clothing!

Gadget

[Gadget]

Oh dear. The pic of Sarah, WH''s wife, doesn't look like the woman in the original photo 

[stormi]

Oh dear. The pic of Sarah, WH''s wife, doesn't look like the woman in the original photo 

Yeah I know It's so strange! Yes the tree is public, it is called 'Our Family Tree' by username steventimms. You see - I am in contact with the living descendants of everyone in that other 1900 'Outside the launderette' photo (I tracked everyone down!) This photo was provided by the descendants of Annie Timms, I thought it would be rather normal for her to have a family portrait of one of her brothers. The person who provided it for me did not know who they were and asked me to have a look into it. There is no discerning information on the rear as far as I know.

[Gadget]

Yes, I found it 

The nearest pic that looks like the woman in the images is Georgina Violet Hunt who married Edward's son Arthur, who also has the family likeness.  It can't be them as they are too young though.

[stormi]

I guess there is another option: Albert Ernest Timms. I don't have a good photo of him and nothing of his wife. He had two girls (I know they may be girls/boys in the photo) but still he seems a bit old, only a few years younger than William. Either way one thing we can agree on is this: whoever it is, has to have been in the Leicestershire Prince Alberts own Yeomanry.

[Gadget]

I've been looking at those two group photos that show William Henry and using the info to check with census and BMDs. Although it looks the same person, they don't seem to fit - the wife is not the same and his children wouldn't be old enough to have children by that age.

Are you sure that that is him? Do you have anything more  on Albert Ernest and his family, including photos?  Is there anyone from the other lines who might be a better  fit?

I'll continue trying to work things out but .....