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Re: Timms Family photo from 1887 - details on lapel pin
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 20 March 22 11:46 GMT (UK) »

Facial similarities aren't my strong point, but I couldn't help thinking that the men's right ear lobes here (reply #16) are very different.

They are very similar and there is quite an age gap.   Ears grow larger with age. 

PS - I'm not sure about Rose though. Her chin looks a lot smaller.
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Re: Timms Family photo from 1887 - details on lapel pin
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 20 March 22 13:27 GMT (UK) »

Facial similarities aren't my strong point, but I couldn't help thinking that the men's right ear lobes here (reply #16) are very different.

They are very similar and there is quite an age gap.   Ears grow larger with age. 

Hmm - I thought the older man's ear lobe was much more pronounced and rounded. Look at the angle between the lobe and the ear flap: the younger man's is scarcely noticeable, but the older man's lobe is so big as to form almost a right angle. Could such a significant change in shape be down to ageing?

 I also think the younger man's ear flap appears to turn over much more at the top (there's probably a better medical term for this), though this could be an effect of the lighting.

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Re: Timms Family photo from 1887 - details on lapel pin
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 20 March 22 14:26 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I saw that a good while ago, Arthur, as this is the second thread on this person.  I think it's either an age, youthful injury (a cauliflower ear was mentioned on the other thread), or with the photo itself (lighting, angle, developing, scanning, etc.) .  All other features are more or less identical.

The initial question that the OP posed was to identify the lapel badge. Maybe you might recognise it.

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Re: Timms Family photo from 1887 - details on lapel pin
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 20 March 22 15:54 GMT (UK) »
The initial question that the OP posed was to identify the lapel badge. Maybe you might recognise it.

Oops, got a bit carried away  :-[

I don't recognise the badge, but the thing it reminds me most of is an anchor, with a white arc above it and a scroll below. However, I don't know how that might relate to Coventry.

(Alternatively, what I am seeing as the stem/shaft of the anchor might be topped off with a crown  :-\ )


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Re: Timms Family photo from 1887 - details on lapel pin
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 20 March 22 19:29 GMT (UK) »
Thank you friends for all having a look. I've been busy this weekend but in the week I might try and make a drawing of it which might help.

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Re: Timms Family photo from 1887 - details on lapel pin
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 20 March 22 23:31 GMT (UK) »
Is it possibly a badge of the 11th Hussars? It's hard to tell from the angle, but you can kind of see the scroll at the base, the pillar and then the peacock feathers at the top. The 'feathers' appear wider than on the official cap badge, but this may have been a decorative version, with the curved white top part possibly having the regiment name?

Were there any military connections in the family?

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Re: Timms Family photo from 1887 - details on lapel pin
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 20 March 22 23:34 GMT (UK) »
That's certainly a possibility, Gary  :)

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« Reply #34 on: Sunday 20 March 22 23:42 GMT (UK) »
I've just done a quick alteration and removed the white at the top.

Well found, Gary  :D

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Re: Timms Family photo from 1887 - details on lapel pin
« Reply #35 on: Monday 21 March 22 12:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi guys,

I found another similar style on brittonsbadges.co.uk. So the white crown area could have said Warwickshire perhaps.

I might contact the owner of brittonsbadges to see if he might chime in on it also.

Thank you all this is super interesting detective work :)