Timms Family photo from 1887 - details on lapel pin

[stormi]

Facial similarities aren't my strong point, but I couldn't help thinking that the men's right ear lobes here (reply #16) are very different.

They are very similar and there is quite an age gap.   Ears grow larger with age. 

Hmm - I thought the older man's ear lobe was much more pronounced and rounded. Look at the angle between the lobe and the ear flap: the younger man's is scarcely noticeable, but the older man's lobe is so big as to form almost a right angle. Could such a significant change in shape be down to ageing?

 I also think the younger man's ear flap appears to turn over much more at the top (there's probably a better medical term for this), though this could be an effect of the lighting.

I agree with Arthur.One has lobes,the other doesn't! Nothiong to with age,you're born with one or the other.

I did some research on whether earlobes change with age and apparently they do, please see:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/health-27277582

Especially click play on the video and you'll see massive changes. Even the top ear rim thins with age. So I would say it has a lot to do with age

[hepburn]

I'll go with that,but,that film show lobes.I believe you either have lobes or not.They don't change.

[Gadget]

I'll go with that,but,that film show lobes.I believe you either have lobes or not.They don't change.

Mine have.

 

[Gadget]

Are you OK, hepburn?

[Gadget]

The younger man is 3/4 faced. The older man is full faced. 

As it is, I'm doubting the identification because of the children's ages and their birth dates. Carol and I have dated the photo as circa 1920, so the children don't fit - they would be approx 13, 10, and 3.

Also, I don't think that the two female pics  are the same person.

[Gadget]

Re earlobes.

My ears are attached but over the years the back parts have grown slightly and can look detached at some angles.

[Treetotal]

The younger man is 3/4 faced. The older man is full faced. 

As it is, I'm doubting the identification because of the children's ages and their birth dates. Carol and I have dated the photo as circa 1920, so the children don't fit - they would be approx 13, 10, and 3.

Also, I don't think that the two female pics  are the same person.

I am in agreement here and am pretty sure that Gadget and I have the date right for the couple with two children. Have you considered that the bride could be the relation rather than the male line?

Carol

[stormi]

The younger man is 3/4 faced. The older man is full faced. 

As it is, I'm doubting the identification because of the children's ages and their birth dates. Carol and I have dated the photo as circa 1920, so the children don't fit - they would be approx 13, 10, and 3.

Also, I don't think that the two female pics  are the same person.

I am in agreement here and am pretty sure that Gadget and I have the date right for the couple with two children. Have you considered that the bride could be the relation rather than the male line?

Carol

I guess it is possible but the man looks just like Henry Timms (his possible father) and his brothers William/Albert/Edward. He even looks like his sisters Annie and Amy. I'll do a family mock-up tomorrow so you can see.

The image itself came from the living relatives of William. I have a good photo of Williams family I can post too.

Also I was thinking the photo could have been 1915 making it the right time for Winifred & Edith with their age differences. Is there something especially important that changed between 1915 and 1920?

[Treetotal]

If you Google  "Men's collar bar" 1920s you will see what we mean. You might also want to consider that the youngest child could be a boy, and yes they did wear dresses and hair bows.
Carol