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Re: 1657 Will
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 17 March 22 08:50 GMT (UK) »
Assume you have used Men in Armour for Gloucestershire 1608  (Not sure if Wiltshire had Men in Armour 1608)

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Hawkesbury (South Glos., Chipping Sodbury)
John HOLBOROE has one musket furnished. subsidy man
Thomas HOLBOROE servant to John HOLBOROE husbandman A20. middle stature
William HOLBOROE husbandman, son of Henry HOLBOROE A20 lower stature
Henry HOLBOROWE the younger husbandman A60 middle stature. subsidy man

Didmarton and Oldbury (Badminton)
William HOLBOROWE husbandman. A20 lower stature
Ralph HOLBOROWE husbandman, A20 lower stature

(Didmarton, only 3.5 miles from the family you are researching)

Olvestone (South Glos. Thornbury)
there are HOLBROOKE's

Bitton and Hanham (South Glos. Keynsham)
There are Holborn

Moreton (South Glos. Thornbury)
There is a HOLBORNE

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As you know, Farmers married off their daughters to other Farmer's sons - for the land.

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Re: 1657 Will
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 17 March 22 09:02 GMT (UK) »
Found another marriage allegation on the Forest of Dean records

Again think the family are marrying off to enhance their land....

4 Februry 1712

Henry HOLBOROUGH - residence : SHIRSTONE (as spelt)
Sarah HOLBOROUGH

marriage allegations (sworn before Mr Bliss)
transcriber's notes: Old style date 1711/12

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Re: 1657 Will
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 17 March 22 19:52 GMT (UK) »
Capetown, I haven't found a Men and Armour for Wiltshire so presumably it doesn't exist which is a shame as my Holborows seem to be around the Gloucestershire/Wiltshire border.  I'm sorry to trouble you again about this but I can't find the Holborow entry in the Wiltshire notes and queries although I have found other parts you mentioned.  I can't find it either in page 17 or 540.  Is it volume 3?

Thanks very much for your help.

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Re: 1657 Will
« Reply #21 on: Friday 18 March 22 08:55 GMT (UK) »
Not quite sure what link you can't find.

This is the link to the book

Wiltshire Queries Sherston Manor Rolls


www.twhc.org.uk/book/Wiltshire%20Notes%20and%20Queries%20Vol%208.pdf


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Re: 1657 Will
« Reply #22 on: Friday 18 March 22 09:13 GMT (UK) »
Slipper (not sure if you've read this book on line) can't do the link but Google

Full text of "Some account of the family of Holbrow, anciently of.....

the website is

htt[ps://archive.org > stream (click on other formats to read the book)

It has the Coat of Arms - etc

Mentions Sherston - and includies the  Will of William HOLBOROWE, of Sherston Magna. co Wilts, Husbandman, dated 23 September 1607.

I bequeath to my daughter Alice HOLBOROWE, three kine, my greater heifer, 20 sheep and 3 young pigs

To my other daughter Dinah HOLBOROWE, the like.

To my son Thomas, my best platter, my spice "morter and pessell," and one little caldron.

To my said daughters, all the residence of my household stuff equally between them.

Residuary legatee and executor: my son Thomas.

I give to my sister Joane, one store pig.

To the goodwife, HOBBS, widow, £'4.

To my godson John TURNOR.

Witnesses: Richard WOODROFFE, clerk
Joane WYER

Probate Act not recorded.  Archd. Wilts : Filed Wills.

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Re: 1657 Will
« Reply #23 on: Friday 18 March 22 17:29 GMT (UK) »
Capetown, I'll certainly look at the account of the family of Holborowe - thanks for that.  My problem with the Wiltshire notes and queries is that I've got the Grant to Iddols on page 19 but on pages 17 and 18 I've got no mention of Holborow.  I've got the Names of Jurors; Names of the Homage; Presentment of Jurors; and Presentment of Homage.  It's not on page 540 either which has a list of Wills for surnames "W".  The Grant to Holborow could give me a vital clue so I do hope I'm not trying your patience in asking again.  Thanks for all your help.

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Re: 1657 Will
« Reply #24 on: Friday 18 March 22 18:36 GMT (UK) »
Not sure what you are actually researching!!!


I'll have to come back to you, but on Page 91 (which is in the right hand corner of the book)  on Sherston Manor Rolls....... (think I gave the previous page before)...

enclosed, whereof there lie in a close in North Field called Shallow-brook 15 acres, in a close lying in East Field called Widely 20 acres, in another close there called Sester 11 acres, and in a close lying on the North side of the sd. tenement 15 acres previously enclosed.  And to this Court came Joseph HOLBOROROW, son of Ann, to whom all and singular the sd. premises ought to come by virture of the said Copy of Court Roll after the death of the sd. Ann, And the sd. Ann and Joseph here in full Court each rendered up into the hands of the lord the sd premises, with their appurtenances and all estate, etc., that the lord might do his will, whence £4 herior falls to the lord and is remitted and the sd Joseph took of the lord by delivery of sd. streward (the sd premises detailed as above) to whom the lord by his sd steward granted seisin by the rod to Have and Hold the messuage, etc. and premises above recited to the sd . Joseph Holbororow and Ann Holborough for term of their lives and of the longest liver of them successively at an annual rent of 29 shillings, vix. the sd tenement and cottages 20s. and the the sd common in Luckley 3s 4d. and for the sd pasture in Wyke 3s.1d. for common suit 10d. for Le Lott of understood 10d.; and the for aherior when it occurs £4. andall other burdens, works, customers, and servie thence previously due and of right accstomed, An by agreement they, or one of rthem, will plant annually upon some parcel of the premsies 4 trees, oak, beech, or fruit, And for such estate etc.  etc. Joseph and Ann gave the lord £30 fine, and joseph was admitted tendant and did fealty, but Ann's feallty was...... etc etc.


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Re: 1657 Will
« Reply #25 on: Friday 18 March 22 19:52 GMT (UK) »
Capetown, that's great thank you.  I have it now on pages 90/91.  I have been trying to trace a Sarah Holborow born about 1639 who had brothers Joseph, William and Daniel and as Ann had sons of these names I wonder if this may be her family.  I'm not sure if this Grant will help me but, as you know, all pieces of information can be of value.  Thanks very much.  Slipper
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