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Offline nellie d

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Help to decipher this name please!
« on: Tuesday 15 March 22 19:54 GMT (UK) »
I wasn’t sure if this was Tarne, Jarne or Farne!
Any ideas very welcome 🙏🏻
Mayhew,Birch,Coates,Norman - Suffolk
Masters - Somerset
Richardson, Masters, Langridge, Dyer, Chambers - Sussex
Dyer, Luscombe, Hurrell - Devon
Chambers - Brecon
Lambden, Hawkins - Berkshire
Biggs, Cooper, Druce, Hedges, Haywood, Francis,Ward, Skidmore, Pinfold, Dorn, Gardener, Hopgood - Oxfordshire
Francis, Clarke - Lambeth/Surrey
Rowland, Emmett, Lockhart - Southwark/Middlesex
Simpson, Exall, Mann, Frisby,  - Kent
Ward, Teasdale, Smalwood - Yorkshire
Tomkins, Bayliss - Warwickshire

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Re: Help to decipher this name please!
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 15 March 22 20:05 GMT (UK) »
The second one looks like S E Tame to me.

But the two are not by the same hand. Is one a transcription? If so which one? Or are they from different documents? Some context, place and date might help.
UK Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Help to decipher this name please!
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 15 March 22 20:09 GMT (UK) »
I would say it was S E Tarne

Looby :)

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Re: Help to decipher this name please!
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 15 March 22 20:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi ShaunJ
The first was from the Devon Parish Registers and is the actual signature of the witness.
The second is from the marriage certificate, so will have been transcribed.

I would load the certificate but I can only upload small pictures… I am not very techno, so I don’t know if it is my lack of ability or whether it’s due to a restriction on file size!
Mayhew,Birch,Coates,Norman - Suffolk
Masters - Somerset
Richardson, Masters, Langridge, Dyer, Chambers - Sussex
Dyer, Luscombe, Hurrell - Devon
Chambers - Brecon
Lambden, Hawkins - Berkshire
Biggs, Cooper, Druce, Hedges, Haywood, Francis,Ward, Skidmore, Pinfold, Dorn, Gardener, Hopgood - Oxfordshire
Francis, Clarke - Lambeth/Surrey
Rowland, Emmett, Lockhart - Southwark/Middlesex
Simpson, Exall, Mann, Frisby,  - Kent
Ward, Teasdale, Smalwood - Yorkshire
Tomkins, Bayliss - Warwickshire


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Re: Help to decipher this name please!
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 15 March 22 22:44 GMT (UK) »
I would say it was S E Tarne

Looby :)

I agree, that's what I see.
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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 March 22 01:06 GMT (UK) »
The first looks like S E Tame ie m. The second, the transcription looks like Tarne ie r n.

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 16 March 22 09:21 GMT (UK) »
As Shaun has said, a place and date may help, that would enable a census search for the area. That my throw up a likely person.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Help to decipher this name please!
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 16 March 22 09:30 GMT (UK) »
It was a marriage in East Stonehouse, Devon on 28 August 1909.
The groom Francis George Francis was resident in East Stonehouse as he was based there with the Royal Marines.
The bride, Margaret Helen Rowland lived in Surrey as she was in service as a housekeeper there.
I managed to trace one of the witnesses J Coupland as a John Thomas Coupland, who joined the RM on the same day as Francis! 2 October 1902.
There is no one with a name the same or similar in either family.
I will try and upload the certificates again
Mayhew,Birch,Coates,Norman - Suffolk
Masters - Somerset
Richardson, Masters, Langridge, Dyer, Chambers - Sussex
Dyer, Luscombe, Hurrell - Devon
Chambers - Brecon
Lambden, Hawkins - Berkshire
Biggs, Cooper, Druce, Hedges, Haywood, Francis,Ward, Skidmore, Pinfold, Dorn, Gardener, Hopgood - Oxfordshire
Francis, Clarke - Lambeth/Surrey
Rowland, Emmett, Lockhart - Southwark/Middlesex
Simpson, Exall, Mann, Frisby,  - Kent
Ward, Teasdale, Smalwood - Yorkshire
Tomkins, Bayliss - Warwickshire

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Re: Help to decipher this name please!
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 16 March 22 09:39 GMT (UK) »
I have searched for Tame, Fame, Jame, Tarne, Farne and Jarne in census for Surrey, where the bride was in service, Devon, where the marriage took pkace and Kent, where the bride grew up.

Also, thank you to Looby, Carol and Shanreagh and especially  to Shaun and Jebber, as I didn’t think about the fact that a transcription could obviously alter the details of someones name. So I have learnt something there. Plus of course, that the word I am looking to decipher is best given with other information. Thank you
Mayhew,Birch,Coates,Norman - Suffolk
Masters - Somerset
Richardson, Masters, Langridge, Dyer, Chambers - Sussex
Dyer, Luscombe, Hurrell - Devon
Chambers - Brecon
Lambden, Hawkins - Berkshire
Biggs, Cooper, Druce, Hedges, Haywood, Francis,Ward, Skidmore, Pinfold, Dorn, Gardener, Hopgood - Oxfordshire
Francis, Clarke - Lambeth/Surrey
Rowland, Emmett, Lockhart - Southwark/Middlesex
Simpson, Exall, Mann, Frisby,  - Kent
Ward, Teasdale, Smalwood - Yorkshire
Tomkins, Bayliss - Warwickshire