Looking for Samuel and Ellen Grant and dau Emma Jane of Tetbury post 1881

[Capetown]

Freereg

Baptism at Tetbury, 4 April 1841

Ellen BARRETT

parents: Joseph (labourer) and Elizabeth
residence: Tetbury.

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Marriage at Tetbury: 23 October 1854

Elijah BARRETT aged 20 - Bachelor and Emma GRANT

witnesses: Samuel GRANT and Susan GRANT

[Ladyhawk]

I think you've gone the wrong way with Albert in Ireland - it should be Alfred John.
He's in service in London in 1891 then moves up to Nottingham. He serves in South Africa and in WWI and dies in Nottingham in 1934

For info.

From UK, British Army World War I Pension Records 1914-1920 record he was born 1872 Boxwell Lodge, Gloucestershire married Clara Jane Simkins 24 Oct 1898, two children named Herbert Alfred b 2/10/02 Irene Lily b 20/8/06

There is this Baptism

Alfred John Grant
6 Oct 1872 Boxwell and Leighterton, Gloucestershire
father Samuel,  gamekeeper mother Ellen   

His widow Clara travelled to US 1936

Clara Jane Grant Widow Age: 54 Birth  Darlaston
Last Known Residence:   Nottingham
Departure Port:   Southampton
Arrival 7 Jun 1936 New York, New York, USA
Years in US:   60 Days
Person in Old Country: Mrs Walker, Dau (this would be her married daughter Irene) 26 Egypt St
Nottingham
Person in US:   Mrs Carver, Sister
Ship Name:   Georgic


Clara died age 93 born 26 Sep 1881 Death 27 May 1975 Burial or Cremation 29 May 1975 Nottingham
Alfred John Garnt Burial or Cremation 17 Nov 1934 Nottinghamshire
(source deceased online)

[Robincrook]

The levels that people on here are able to achieve are way and above my expertise, I know it may sound patronising but I really do appreciate it. Going back to Samuel I cannot locate him in 1861 when he should be about 23 years old. Ellen his to be wife in 1867 was as I say in London. Also the fact that they were buried (1874) within a couple of days of each other in their mid 30's would indicate an accident or severe contagious illness I presume. Given that Emma Jane is registered (Aston District) Sep Qtr 1874 and then Christened in Tetbury December 1874 after her parents burial in November 1874 would point to some kind of sudden demise. I guess the only way to find out is to may be get copy of Death Certificates?

[CaroleW]

If you decide to order their death certs - order pdf copies for £7 each instead of the £11 for the “posh” ones.  You get all the same info for £4 less

If Samuel was in London in 1861 - 5 pieces from the Middlesex 1861 are missing

[Robincrook]

Thankyou CaroleW for your advice...... You, along with others, have served me well on several occasions. My go to Site for help on all things Genealogy. Sadly, I do get my Alfred's and Arthur's mixed up from time to time! Im renowned for it! Sorry!

[CaroleW]

Just realised - Emma was baptised after the death of her parents

[Robincrook]

Yes that is correct CaroleW.... i think something rather dreadful must have happened, as Emma's parents were buried within a couple of days of each other when Emma couldn't have been more than a few days old! Both Parents were originally from Tetbury, Glos and it would seem that Ellen's sister Fanny Cleverly(nee Barrett)  took care of Emma thereafter. Emma was noted living with Fanny in Tetbury in the 1881 Census! That is also why I presume Emma's two brothers Alfred and Herbert ended up in the Gumstool Hill Workhouse,Tetbury (1881 Census).

[Robincrook]

possible for Emma Jane as a servant in Marylebone in 1891

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:356M-ZW2

Thankyou Osprey for this find, it looks promising being Warwickshire as the County of birth. I have seen the transcription and then the original entry on the 1891 Census and I am asking if anyone thinks that the transcription for the place of birth is accurate. Im struggling to find reference to "Bisham" in the County. Could it be a shortened version of Birmingham? Would be interested as to what anyone may think.

[osprey]

could be B'gham. There are some very similar 'g' letters on previous page - there's a druggist's warehouseman and others.