John Whitaker and Mary Ashworth -Newchurch, Rossendale. Help please.

[tillyann]

Hi,
John Whitaker married Mary Ashworth on 27 December 1759 at St Nicholas Church in New Church Rossendale. Mary is the daughter of Edmund Ashworth and his wife Mary from Whitewallbottom baptised 11 Jul 1741 at St Nicholas again.
I can't find a baptism anywhere for John as he is from Cowtoot when he marries. I found one in Cowhill but they aren't anywhere near each other those places. Can anyone shed any light on a baptism for me please?
Also, I believe James Whitaker (my direct ancestor) is their son and I have no baptism for him either. He marries Ann Lord of Huttock End on 9 Sept 1794 at St Nicholas Church. I believe they have Edmund, my direct ancestor and a daughter Prudence both born in Four Lanes End. There are other children born to the parents with the same name in Lench but I don't think they are these Whitakers.
I am not intending on going back further than these people but I do want to make sure I've got this right and would really appreciate any input. Thanks.

[ColC]

This appears to be your James Whitaker
Mother   Mary Whitaker
Father   John Whitaker of Edgside
Baptism   23 Oct 1774 Lancashire, Newchurch In Rossendale

There are also two baptisms for Ann Whitaker 29 Apr 1768 & 1 Aug 1769.

Too many John's to be certain.

Colin 

[ColC]

The James 1774 is also in a family tree noted as spouse to Ann Lord but I have just found this   
James Whittaker
Mother   Mary Whittaker
Father   John Whittaker
Baptism   6 Apr 1760 Lancashire, Haslingden

Colin

[ColC]

John & Mary also had the following children baptised Lancashire, Haslingden, there may be others/

Elizabeth Whittaker 19 Jul 1761
Alice Whittaker 2 Dec 1764
Henry Whitaker 19 Aug 1765
John Whittaker 22 Feb 1767


Colin

[Pennines]

Just in case you don't know - there are filmed records of St Nicholas, Rossendale parish registers amongst the Manchester data set on Ancestry. (Along with many other places you would not expect to find within that set!)

Some of the pages for St Nicholas are in a dreadful state though.

[ColC]

John Whittaker
Death Age:   90
Birth Date:   abt 1734
Burial Date:   16 Dec 1824
Burial Place:   Haslingden, Lancashire

Colin

[ColC]

Just in case you don't know - there are filmed records of St Nicholas, Rossendale parish registers amongst the Manchester data set on Ancestry. (Along with many other places you would not expect to find within that set!)

Some of the pages for St Nicholas are in a dreadful state though.

I would agree, the records are very confusing.

Colin

[tillyann]

Thank you so much Colin for this amount of help. I am blown away by that and Pennines as well thank you.
The Whittakers are such a massive family in those parts l have really struggled with them once they got that far back. So thank you again. Much appreciated.

[Footo]

Hi,
John Whitaker married Mary Ashworth on 27 December 1759 at St Nicholas Church in New Church Rossendale. Mary is the daughter of Edmund Ashworth and his wife Mary from Whitewallbottom baptised 11 Jul 1741 at St Nicholas again.
I can't find a baptism anywhere for John as he is from Cowtoot when he marries. I found one in Cowhill but they aren't anywhere near each other those places. Can anyone shed any light on a baptism for me please?
Also, I believe James Whitaker (my direct ancestor) is their son and I have no baptism for him either. He marries Ann Lord of Huttock End on 9 Sept 1794 at St Nicholas Church. I believe they have Edmund, my direct ancestor and a daughter Prudence both born in Four Lanes End. There are other children born to the parents with the same name in Lench but I don't think they are these Whitakers.
I am not intending on going back further than these people but I do want to make sure I've got this right and would really appreciate any input. Thanks.

Cowtoot is in Bacup if you are not already aware of this. https://maps.nls.uk/view/102343979#zoom=5&lat=4287&lon=11626&layers=BT
(Just above Greensnook the shaded central area)

Lench is in Waterfoot - the road leads up from behind the police station that is there today.
Four Lanes End comes under Tunstead. Both Lench and Tunstead are within easy reach of St. Nicholas Church - Lench being the closest. Edge side is also within reach of St. Nicholas Church - Four Lanes End leads up to it.

Hope that helps somewhat.
Barbara