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Matthew Kay, married 11 Jan 1883 Monasterivan, Co. Kildare, sought
« on: Friday 11 March 22 11:34 GMT (UK) »
Matthew Kay married 11 January 1883 in Monasterivan, Co. Kildare, with Elizabeth Eustace. Elizabeth was baptized RC 9 April 1854 in Monasterivan, and died there 2 September 1892. They had one son, Michael, born 11 January 1884 Athy, Co. Kildare.

I seem to be unable to find the birth/baptism and death of Matthew Kay. Any help is welcome.

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Re: Matthew Kay, married 11 Jan 1883 Monasterivan, Co. Kildare, sought
« Reply #1 on: Friday 11 March 22 11:46 GMT (UK) »
Civil Index has marriage indexed under Kaye. Matthew lived in Clogheen townland at time. aFather noted as Michael.


https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/b00cae2227329

Is this the widowed Matthew at 1901:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kildare/Monasterevan/Main_Street/1435720/ ?

and Eliza's death in 1892

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/54dd803831658 ?
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Re: Matthew Kay, married 11 Jan 1883 Monasterivan, Co. Kildare, sought
« Reply #2 on: Friday 11 March 22 12:04 GMT (UK) »
A 1919 edition of Kildare Observer has in Monasterevan Petty Sessions report:

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.    ASSAULT. old man named Matthew Kay, Drogheda Row, summoned Anne Driscoll, same locality, for assault...

Same chap?
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Re: Matthew Kay, married 11 Jan 1883 Monasterivan, Co. Kildare, sought
« Reply #3 on: Friday 11 March 22 12:13 GMT (UK) »
A death to consider, even if only to rule out:

Matthew Keys 1922 seems to have been in workhouse....could Keys have been a mistake for Kay/Kaye?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/69e2673404679
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Re: Matthew Kay, married 11 Jan 1883 Monasterivan, Co. Kildare, sought
« Reply #4 on: Friday 11 March 22 12:27 GMT (UK) »
Michael's 1919 Army papers list his father Matthew as NoK, so presumably still alive at that time.
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Re: Matthew Kay, married 11 Jan 1883 Monasterivan, Co. Kildare, sought
« Reply #5 on: Friday 11 March 22 12:34 GMT (UK) »
Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: Matthew Kay, married 11 Jan 1883 Monasterivan, Co. Kildare, sought
« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 March 22 13:01 GMT (UK) »
Sadly, Elizabeth is the Eliza Kay death in 1887:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/c1628f6978786

and Mary is possibly the 7yr old who died in the workhouse in 1894:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/e452403970340
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Re: Matthew Kay, married 11 Jan 1883 Monasterivan, Co. Kildare, sought
« Reply #7 on: Friday 11 March 22 13:15 GMT (UK) »
The fact that daughter Mary (seems to have) died in Athy workhouse, makes the deathin 1921  of father Matthew in the same place likely. However, the death record calls him "bachelor". Was it common to name a (long time) widower bachelor?

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Re: Matthew Kay, married 11 Jan 1883 Monasterivan, Co. Kildare, sought
« Reply #8 on: Friday 11 March 22 13:58 GMT (UK) »
Spellings and other information on a death certificate especially, are only ever as accurate as the knowledge of the person providing the details. If they don't know correct details, certificate will only record what they perhaps hav assumed.
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