Sybil Edith Crase

[TreeSpirit]

Edith Douglas’s father had died in Sydney on 23 Dec 1910 (https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/15216448?searchTerm=douglas), but by late 1911 (Edith’s death) her mum was residing in WA according to various of Edith’s death notices (e.g. https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/28133796?searchTerm=douglas … FYI this page also contains a remembrance note for James from his “only loving daughter, Eunice” … the way it is phrased sounds a bit funny to me). 

NB Sybil seems to have been living in the Perth area in August 1910 (https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/26289209?searchTerm=sybil ), so could Mary have come to WA before her husband died?

I suppose that initially Mary might have lived in boarding houses and looked after Sybil while Sybil’s “possible” mum was in living and working in e.g. Boulder. Mary Elizabeth DOUGLAS and son Herbert James Douglas are also mentioned in the 1915-1917 electoral rolls as residing at 177 Hay street, Subiaco, so they seem to have lived there for a while before returning to NSW.

[TreeSpirit]

1934 photo of Sybil:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/248967772?searchTerm=bennett

(nice to know what she looks like)

[TreeSpirit]

When Rex Leland BENNETT dies in 1963, his wife is called “Barbara”, so I immediately though that she might be second wife.

However, when Sybil dies in 1991, her name is listed as Sybil Edith (Barbara) BENNETT!!

Huh?

[judb]

When Edith's brother Herbert was admitted to the Sabraon training ship in Sydney (a sort of reformatory) in 1894 their parents were already living apart although both in Redfern. There is a comment on his entry record that the father is unable to get work.

Re their father James Bryan(t) DOUGLAS:
From New South Wales, Australia, Hospital & Asylum Records
James Bryan Douglas, born1855, age 55
Admission or Discharge Date: 15 Feb 1910 at Liverpool, New South Wales,

Handwritten notes (difficult to decipher) include
Wife W A? (Question mark as shown on the record)
Brother: George, Railway Terrace Stanmore
Charles, Wagga
Children: Edith, 29, Mrs Crase, Leaderville WA
Emily, 27 Mrs Watson/Nelson?, Darlington St, Moore Park
Herbert, 25, Abercrombie St, Redfern
Francis, 23, c/o G I Simpson? 60 William St 
(My question marks as I cannot easily read the handwritten record)

Elizabeth may have been in WA for some time before James' death.

James is buried at Rookwood with the baby daughter Edith May who died in 1875, and another son James Henry Carne DOUGLAS, born and died 1881.

Judith

[majm]

..Trying to find a birth record for Sybil Edith Crase. Born about 1901, possibly in Australia.
.......

October 1923 Adelaide SA. Marriage Notice (Trove) Sybil (AKA Billie) parents are reported to be "Late Mr & Mrs J R Crase, Sydney)
Marriage Certificate details also show Father - John Robert Crase.
.....

I have NOT found Sybil as aka Billie 
But I had not considered the possibility that she was  Barbara.....   .... now I wonder if she was Babs ... as in the columnist in the newspaper ...

Well found Judith and TreeSpirit.

JM

[majm]

Umm .... Bellis   .... v  .... Billie  .....ummm

Speculation upon speculation but ....

JM

[maddys52]

There are various mentions of "Billie" Crase on trove in relation to the Conservatorium in Adelaide from memory (don't have access to my computer at the moment).

Also from memory, various reports about Edith Crase's brother Herbert James deserting his wife and going to Subiaco in early 1900s.

[Valsgirl]

Sybil's nicknames included Bill Billie & Barbara. - source family info.
Please be aware that one of Sybil's sons and her daughter in law are still living.
Valsgirl

[sparrett]

Just returning to a few salient points here and building on the findings of many.
Edith Annie-  divorce proceedings re FORSTER began Nov 1899. Absolute Jan 1901.

Included in the reports was her statement she would be going to Singapore!

Harold George in his own divorce proceedings,  states he met Edith Annie around 1900.
He married her in 1902.

In Rely #24 , Wivenhoe mentions a shipping arrival , Mr and Mrs H G CRASE with child. December 1904
The identity of the child has not been resolved.

The original image here for ancestry subscribers
 
https://www.ancestry.com.au/imageviewer/collections/5378/images/32704_334541-00061?treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=LiA36070&_phstart=successSource&pId=1105674

shows I think, the child was female.

A female child of the couple had died in April 1904.

I wonder about the trip to Singapore.  Perhaps it was a planned trip with Harold?

Sue