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Sybil Edith Crase
« on: Monday 07 March 22 23:55 GMT (UK) »
Trying to find a birth record for Sybil Edith Crase. Born about 1901, possibly in Australia. Sybil held both a British (possibly, her right by descent) & Australian passport.

October 1919. Perth WA. -The earliest record I can find (Trove) is her 1st Engagement Notice. This engagement appears to last only a few months, before fiance marries another woman!

Feb. 1921. Passenger list "Miss S Crase" WA. to SA.

October 1922. Adelaide SA. Sybil's 2nd Engagement Notice

October 1923 Adelaide SA. Marriage Notice (Trove) Sybil (AKA Billie) parents are reported to be "Late Mr & Mrs J R Crase, Sydney)
Marriage Certificate details also show Father - John Robert Crase.
I have all the information I need about Mrs Sybil Edith Bennett nee Crase from her 1923 marriage  until her April 1991 death in Sydney.
I can find no B M D  records  for her father John Robert Crase.

Any help would be really appreciated.
Thank you
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Re: Sybil Edith Crase
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 08 March 22 00:28 GMT (UK) »


Sunday Times  5 Oct 1919 p11
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/58006216?
Mr. Charles B. ALEXANDER, of Broome. the prospective bride being Miss Sybil
CRASE, of Subiaco.


Observer 23 Dec 1923  p38
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/164837813?
BENNETT—CRASE.—On the 27th October, at St. Peter's College Chapel, by the Rev, W- H.
Irwin, M.A., Rex. Leland, eldest son of Mrs. and the late Dr. T. C. Bennett, Prospect, to
Sybil Edith, daughter of the late Mr. and Mrs. J. R. Crase, Sydney.

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Re: Sybil Edith Crase
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 08 March 22 00:53 GMT (UK) »

Mirror     (Perth)   27 Oct 1923 p9
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/77758060?
To-morrow (October 37) in the venue of the St Peter's College Chapel, Adelaide, Miss Sybil Edith
Crase will whisper the blushing yea to Captain Rex Leland Bennett.  Both the contracting parties are widely known in Perth, and many good wishes from the West will accompany them to the altar.

Was Sybil still married at the time of her death, or did the 1923 marriage end.....separation...divorce?

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Re: Sybil Edith Crase
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 08 March 22 01:58 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your interest, Wivenhoe.
I already have the information in your answer. Note my initial query.
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Re: Sybil Edith Crase
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 08 March 22 02:35 GMT (UK) »

I have included the full text of the notices in case it gives any clues. Sybil Edith is of Subiaco.

Mercury 5 Nov 1927 p1
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/24204293?
....birth of son in Hobart......

Mercury 14 Jan 1933 p1
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/24688355?
...birth of son  at 12 Lang Road; Centennial Park, N.S.W.....

These birth certificates would record age and birthplace of mother.

BDM NSW death
7169/1991   BENNETT Sybil Edith   died Gordon  89

The informant does not know much about Sybil's origins. If her husband is still alive, and possibly the source of information on the death certificate, you might wonder if her family knows much about her at all.





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Re: Sybil Edith Crase
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 08 March 22 02:43 GMT (UK) »
Do you know Sybil's mother's name?

Judith
DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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Re: Sybil Edith Crase
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 08 March 22 02:48 GMT (UK) »


The Mail 12 Aug 1922  p17
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/63948288?
..Sybil is a student at the Conservatorium of Music in Adelaide......

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Re: Sybil Edith Crase
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 08 March 22 04:26 GMT (UK) »
"Trying to find a birth record for Sybil Edith Crase. Born about 1901, possibly in Australia. Sybil held both a British (possibly, her right by descent) & Australian passport."

Please note - I'm a family friend and aware of Sybil's life after her marriage - as I have previously stated. Therefore her Marriage facts & Death record are known to me. I'd only like to find Sylvia's birth and details of her parents. Sybil was very cagey about her parents / birthplace, telling the family they didn't need to know that!

Thank you, judb, for your interest in my quest.
I don't know Sybil's Mum's name & cannot find a likely marriage or death for Sylvia's parents. We wonder if the very "theatrical" Sybil made up her father's name, but to have it printed in the newspaper & to have a Miss E Crase as a witness at her marriage, surely has to have some truth to it. One thought is that Sybil was adopted & took on the surname Crase. But who then are Mr & Mrs J R Crase?.
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Re: Sybil Edith Crase
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 08 March 22 05:03 GMT (UK) »

"Miss E Crase as a witness at her marriage"

You had not mentioned this before.  Who was the other witness?

It there anything here to work with........

All Western Australia, Australia, Crew and Passenger Lists, 1852-1930 results for Crase

https://www.ancestry.com.au/search/collections/1684/?name=_crase&arrival=_fremantle&arrival_x=_1-0&count=50&name_x=1_1

Do you have the birth certificates for the two sons, born Tasmania and Sydney?