Author Topic: Aston Workhouse Records Around 1851 James and Henry Mantle  (Read 966 times)

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Aston Workhouse Records Around 1851 James and Henry Mantle
« on: Friday 04 March 22 15:15 GMT (UK) »
Afternoon All

I'm not sure if this is possible, but I am looking for information on 2 children who are listed in the workhouse on the 1851 census

James Mantle, Age 9, Pauper, Born in France
Henry Mantle, Age 4, Pauper, Born in France.

Any information on these two, especially dates of entry and exit of the workhouse, and the jackpot would be parents names or other family members.

Kind regards

Tracey
Prentice - Warwickshire
Hannis  - Warwickshire
Trigg - Warwickshire/Denbigshire
Mantell - Warwickshire

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Re: Aston Workhouse Records Around 1851 James and Henry Mantle
« Reply #1 on: Friday 04 March 22 15:32 GMT (UK) »
I can't see any reference to admissions to the Workhouse in this period, but you might find this of interest -

https://www.workhouses.org.uk/Aston/
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Re: Aston Workhouse Records Around 1851 James and Henry Mantle
« Reply #2 on: Friday 04 March 22 15:38 GMT (UK) »

I have found the entry on the 1851 census on Ancestry but they are not listed as "paupers" but as "scholars".

Havent been able to find anything else but am having problems with the Ancestry website when searching generally.

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Re: Aston Workhouse Records Around 1851 James and Henry Mantle
« Reply #3 on: Friday 04 March 22 15:47 GMT (UK) »
Another post related to James and Henry

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=859463.0
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Re: Aston Workhouse Records Around 1851 James and Henry Mantle
« Reply #4 on: Friday 04 March 22 15:52 GMT (UK) »
Have you noticed that on the 1851 census (where I agree it says scholar) - the end column is ticked for both boys 'Whether blind or deaf and dumb'. That may be an error - but several entries are ticked.
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Re: Aston Workhouse Records Around 1851 James and Henry Mantle
« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 March 22 15:59 GMT (UK) »
Have you noticed that on the 1851 census (where I agree it says scholar) - the end column is ticked for both boys 'Whether blind or deaf and dumb'. That may be an error - but several entries are ticked.

This is mentioned in the link given by BumbleB

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Family name Preston (of Birmingham)
Husselbe (Shropshire), Harper (Claverley, Stoke, Warwick, Birmingham) Lloyd (Shropshire & Birmingham) Pitt (Birmingham) Francis (Shropshire) Lloyd (Shropshire & Birmingham). Taylor (Birmingham).  Mellon(Mallon), Convery, Atchison (Gateshead & Ireland).

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Re: Aston Workhouse Records Around 1851 James and Henry Mantle
« Reply #6 on: Friday 04 March 22 16:02 GMT (UK) »
Sorry -- BumbleB beat me to it when she posted her link, as I was writing my message - I hadn't read the link.

My sincere apologies.
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Re: Aston Workhouse Records Around 1851 James and Henry Mantle
« Reply #7 on: Friday 04 March 22 16:03 GMT (UK) »
I'm wondering about those "ticks" in the last column - you will notice that all the persons so titled are NOT from the Birmingham, Erdington, Aston area.   :-\
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Re: Aston Workhouse Records Around 1851 James and Henry Mantle
« Reply #8 on: Friday 04 March 22 16:06 GMT (UK) »

I have found the entry on the 1851 census on Ancestry but they are not listed as "paupers" but as "scholars".

They are listed as paupers in the ‘relation to head of family’ column.

1851 census in Aston Workhouse
HO 107/2062/283/3

James Mantle, pauper, 9, scholar, France
Henry do, do, 4, do do,

There is extensive information/ searches about this family already on the other thread.



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