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Re: needham family of Barnsley and Sheffield
« Reply #18 on: Monday 21 February 22 12:51 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all for taking the trouble to try to help me with my search.  I have now established that the person I thought was Sarah was actually Leah, married to a man with the name John who was a miner.  Someone called "Big Bazza" from Wales investigated some of this several years ago now and raised his concerns about Sarah.  He is descended from the same family.  I don't know if he still uses this site.  So it looks like I now need to try to unravel the Rhode/Harry/George mystery!  ::) ???

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Re: needham family of Barnsley and Sheffield
« Reply #19 on: Monday 21 February 22 13:53 GMT (UK) »
If you look at the original page of the 1871 census it clearly shows Rhoda as D-in law, not daughter (so has been wrongly transcribed) listed immediately after husband Charles.   Then comes Harry - shown as son i.e. since relationships are to the head of the household, Harry is son to John and Harriet - this has already been proved - birth Jun.qtr.1853 Ecclesall Bierlow, mmn Swiby (should of course be Twiby) as shown on GRO's own index.

George H. 2 is correctly shown as 'grandson' to John and Harriet BUT was born the year before his parents Charles and Rhoda (nee Bell) married in 1870.   Again, as already mentioned, his birth is registered as George Harry Bell in Mar.qtr.1869 Barnsley.

So, there is no mystery!   Rhoda was wife of John and Harriet's son Charles, George Harry was their son who was born the year before they married so registered as 'Bell' and Harry was the son of John and Harriet.

Don't know how to make it any clearer for you.

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Re: needham family of Barnsley and Sheffield
« Reply #20 on: Monday 21 February 22 15:22 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your information, which is very clear.  What has thrown me is this illegitimate child of Rhode.  On the site that I use he is listed as Edward (b1869) Grandson.  When I looked carefully at the original his name is George H, Grandson. Possibly the site which I use doesn't give as much info. as some of the others.   :)

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Re: needham family of Barnsley and Sheffield
« Reply #21 on: Monday 21 February 22 18:36 GMT (UK) »
You always need to look at the original image to ensure the transcription is correct.  Some of the images are faded or the enumerators handwriting leaves a lot to be desired.


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Re: needham family of Barnsley and Sheffield
« Reply #22 on: Monday 21 February 22 18:58 GMT (UK) »
Yes, thank you Carole.  This search has proved that.  I am grateful for your help and advice!

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Re: needham family of Barnsley and Sheffield
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 22 February 22 07:14 GMT (UK) »
Thank you CarolW for summarising all of that info for rakpat.

And I'm happy you now understand all that was posted for you rakpat.

All the best,
Trish :)
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