Joseph Clarke married to Ivy Stacey

[Jimmy_c]

Just an update on this,

I confirmed with my uncle that the address on Mary's burial certificate was a match for the road she lived on. From that I have ordered the corresponding death certificate.

I ordered Joseph's death certificate and his dob is the same as his suspected record on the 1939 register so I'm classing the 1939 entry as a confirmed record.

Joseph's death certificate says he was born in Nottingham but I think this may be incorrect. There were two Joseph Clarkes born in Nottingham in 1924. The maiden names of the mother's on those two records are 'Streets' and 'Fenning' there is another in 1925 for a 'Booth'.

I've checked in Irish genealogy if any of those names match with Mary's birthdate of 28th September 1899 but no luck so far. I shall await her death certificate and get the maiden name from that.

Thanks again for all of your help.

[heywood]

Is the other person buried in the same grave a relative, do you know?

[Jimmy_c]

When I looked it just had Mary Clarke listed twice. I couldn't find the second person.

[Jimmy_c]

Just an update. We received Mary's death certificate today. It didn't contain her maiden name unfortunately but we confirmed it was valid by the signatorys address. It also confirmed her spouse was George Henry Clarke, a farm labourer. On the death certificate her occupation was "widow OR wife of George Henry Clarke, farm labourer". We know that George left when Joseph was still a child. My focus now is on trying to track down a George Henry.

[Lola5]

Mary Clarke twice might havebeenmother and daughter.
Joseph's older sibling may have been Mary....
Maybe   look for a Mary marrying George Henry Clarke in B arrack churches in Ireland,
Eg. Dublin, Beggars Bush, Birr or one of the others where British troops were stationed.

Marriage about 1920 .?.

[Lola5]

Others have Joseph Clarke or 11July 1924. In Staffordshire.
Father Thomas William Clarke  a military man. Born Walsall Staffs 1876....
 marrying Mary Curran at RC church in Carrick on Sur Tipperary.29/11/1913.
Mary Curran as given as wife on military form with date and place of marriage
Thomas' military no.302439.
Same Mary given as found on 1939 census.

What name is given as   Joseph,s father on marriage cert to Ivy.?

[aghadowey]

What name is given as   Joseph,s father on marriage cert to Ivy.?

He was born 11th July 1923. His mother was called Mary and was from Ireland. He married Ivy Stacey in 1946. On his wedding certificate he lists his father as George Henry Clarke, farm labourer. His occupation on the wedding certificate was a driver for the army and it had his service number.

[Lola5]

Yes.
I know...but strange 11 July 1924. ....11 July 1923.
Strange other folk have Thos William as Joseph's father..... that same Joseph marrying Ivy Stacey.
 And quote the same 1939 census.

That military number is Thomas William Clarke,s.

I had a marriage cert where  the father,s name was rubbish...it quite throughme.I knew her father,s and mother's names.

People lie on marriage certs !

The  military cert the op has sent for should solve the mystery.

Still Joseph,s military record should have all info on it when it comes.

Might be worth following Patrick Clarke born Carrick on Sur Tipperary a d see what his father,s name is.

[Jimmy_c]

Thanks for the recommendation. The Thomas William records on ancestry are from one of my cousins and one of my uncles. I've spoken to them and they don't know where the recommendation came from. George Henry Clarke is on Joe's marriage certificate and on Mary's death certificate. The only thing linking them up is the July 11th date.