Joseph Clarke married to Ivy Stacey

[Jimmy_c]

Hello,

I'm trying to find any information relating to Joseph Clarke. He's my paternal grandfather and I've hit a real roadblock getting any further than the below.

He was born 11th July 1923. His mother was called Mary and was from Ireland. He married Ivy Stacey in 1946. On his wedding certificate he lists his father as George Henry Clarke, farm labourer. His occupation on the wedding certificate was a driver for the army and it had his service number.

I have managed to trace the Stacey branch but really struggling to find anything about George Clarke or Mary. I beleive they left Ireland for Nottingham in 1924.

Any links or help anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated.

All the best,

[rutht22000]

Hi Jimmy

Have you got the 1939 Register for Mary and Joseph in Nottingham? 

No George but gives a birth date for Mary of 28 September 1899 and for Joseph of 11 July 1924.  There is a closed record as well so did Joseph have an older sibling who may be still alive?  (We can't post living people's details so your answer may well just need to be yes or no to that  )

Was Joseph born in Ireland or Nottingham do you know?  Also what year did he die?   

and another question...can you post Joseph's service number too?

[CaroleW]

No way of knowing if this is the right family but if Mary was b 1899 presumably George was a similar age

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Monaghan/Monaghan_Rural/Tamlat/810741/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003139904/

[CaroleW]

There is this birth on FS

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F19S-YXS

[Jimmy_c]

Hi Jimmy

Have you got the 1939 Register for Mary and Joseph in Nottingham? 

Thank you for this. I had seen it before yes but wasn't sure if it was him. Now we have his death certificate the birth dates match so assume it is Thank you!

I beleive he had two step brothers but they would have all been older. That closed record would mean someone born at a younger date so maybe he has a sibling born in Nottingham.

Joseph died in 1990. His service number was 4986581.

Thank you again

[Jimmy_c]

Thank you! This could well be him. I beleive their family were presbertaryan.

[rutht22000]

Hi Jimmy

Have you got the 1939 Register for Mary and Joseph in Nottingham? 

Thank you for this. I had seen it before yes but wasn't sure if it was him. Now we have his death certificate the birth dates match so assume it is Thank you!

I beleive he had two step brothers but they would have all been older. That closed record would mean someone born at a younger date so maybe he has a sibling born in Nottingham.

Joseph died in 1990. His service number was 4986581.

Thank you again

No problem.

Were the step siblings on George's or Mary's side?  Might lead us in a convuluted way to the parents marriage if you know their names or rough dates of birth?

[Jimmy_c]

They were on the mother's side I think but I don't know their surname or Mary's maiden name. Joseph didn't really get on with many people in the family and they weren't very present in the family life. One story is George was an English soldier who brought Mary and her son's back to England after the civil war. The other is Mary fled from Belfast to get away from George. This is all second or third generation hand me down knowledge though and not very reliable.

[heywood]

I would have thought the redacted person was older in terms of listing the family but maybe not.

Have you checked 1939 on Find my Past? There was one a couple of weeks ago, redacted on Ancestry but not on FindMyPast.