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Thomas GREENWOOD Halifax?
« on: Thursday 17 February 22 22:43 GMT (UK) »
I thought I had this person sorted out and was just filling in gaps in my records, so ordered his marriage certificate from the Victoria Australia BDM.
Thomas GREENWOOD, Age 31, widower since November 1855, with one dead child, from Halifax Yorkshire, Father James GREENWOOD, manufacturer. mother Sarah WINDELL. Married Elizabeth Hawkins on 29 Nov 1859 in Victoria Australia.

I have/ his birth as 27 Aug 1828 in Stanfield apparently correct mother and father except this bloke is a weaver, various records seem to confirm this, until I found when rechecking the records the same family and Thomas turn up in the 1861 census. This correct in every way family is incorrect as he was busy having children and discovering gold mines in Victoria in 1861

I am looking for details of Thomas' first marriage that ended in Nov 1855. My thinking possibly wife and child died in child birth. From that I hope to be able to track down his correct birth/baptism.
Thanks for any help, I am from Australia and struggle with UK records.
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Re: Thomas GREENWOOD Halifax?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 February 22 23:02 GMT (UK) »
Hello Rusted
Can you please tell me when Thomas arrived in Australia and details of the ship.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Thomas GREENWOOD Halifax?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 February 22 23:25 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Neale.
Sorry I cant find him at all in assisted or unassisted between 1855 and 1859.
Oh, there's a thought, I presumed he came out after his wife died, I wonder if she died in transit or even in Australia?
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Re: Thomas GREENWOOD Halifax?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 February 22 23:41 GMT (UK) »
I think it would be important to try to established when he arrived in Australia. He may have married in Australia, or he may have arrived in the colony with a wife.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)


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Re: Thomas GREENWOOD Halifax?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 17 February 22 23:43 GMT (UK) »
I found two of them neither appears correct though.
Thomas Greenwood 22, with wife Sarah 18 from Cumberland Ag labourer on board James brown Jan 1853 assisted.
Thomas Greenwood, 18, butcher, unassisted Aug 1853 on Albinus.

I will see what I can find about the first one.
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Re: Thomas GREENWOOD Halifax?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 February 22 23:55 GMT (UK) »
No Greenwood deaths at sea registered on either of those ships in the time frame 1850 to 1859.
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Re: Thomas GREENWOOD Halifax?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 18 February 22 00:07 GMT (UK) »
I checked the Victoria pioneer index and nothing there either in the time frame jumps out.
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Re: Thomas GREENWOOD Halifax?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 18 February 22 00:32 GMT (UK) »


Can you please list all the information on the marriage certificate, 1859.


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Re: Thomas GREENWOOD Halifax?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 18 February 22 00:35 GMT (UK) »
This looks promising if his mother is Windle

The marriage of James Greenwood and Sarah Windle shows her residence as Northowram.

1841 1303/5/3
James Greenwood 30yrs
Sarah 30yrs
With several children including Thomas 12 yrs

1851 2298/12/16
James Greenwood 43 yrs Manufacturer Table covers, worsted and Cotton
Sarah 43 yrs
Plus several children including Thomas 22 yrs

Younger children have mother’s maiden name of Windle
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