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Re: Heirlooms rant
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 17 February 22 02:54 GMT (UK) »
Probably slate, as the name of the file suggests.  ;)

I must remember to take notice of file names.  ;D

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« Reply #19 on: Thursday 17 February 22 08:10 GMT (UK) »
Bumble B ,if you can see the Hallmark post it ,I have a little book of gold and silver Hallmarks from 1544 - 1984.
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« Reply #20 on: Thursday 17 February 22 08:29 GMT (UK) »
My interest is early photography and if you look on Ebay you will find lots of Victorian photos for sale. It is very unusual for the individual in these photos to be identified. These are all very obviously family items that subsequent family members have chosen to get rid of! I am sure that most people in this site would regard such early family photos as priceless and yet many families apparently see them as worthless junk.
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« Reply #21 on: Thursday 17 February 22 09:33 GMT (UK) »
My interest is early photography and if you look on Ebay you will find lots of Victorian photos for sale. It is very unusual for the individual in these photos to be identified. These are all very obviously family items that subsequent family members have chosen to get rid of! I am sure that most people in this site would regard such early family photos as priceless and yet many families apparently see them as worthless junk.
I mentioned recently another heirloom, the original 1865 glass negative of 4 generations, the third member being the recipient of the slate (yes, slate) clock.  A few years ago I was amused to see this very photo on the internet (can't recall where) and stated to have names on the back.  By then my researches had found names for them all, confirmed by the repetition of surnames in later generations.

Like others, I have inherited collections of late Victorian photos ('cartes de visite') in elaborately decorated albums clearly intended to be heirlooms.  Unfortunately the originators didn't have the foresight to identify most of the sitters, so for us those collections have become 'junk' or merely strange relics.  Some judicious contacts obtained from websites like R-C have put names to a few, but most have gone in the bin  :'(

Regarding the clock, I said 'reputedly' because there is no documentary proof of the clock's origins, but it arrived via my grandmother (b.1869) who lived with us until 1963, and the clock allegedly shows small scars left when her house was bombed in 1941.  As the original recipient died in 1931 she probably left the clock to my grandmother, who had returned from many years in India in 1924.
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« Reply #22 on: Thursday 17 February 22 10:20 GMT (UK) »
Am I particularly obtuse this morning but I don’t get the connection between slate and the name of the file,” Heirlooms rant”.
Enlighten me someone please.

I have nothing of maternal grandparents except a small length of now pale mauve but was deep lavender ,satin ribbon on which is printed details of my maternal grandmother.DOB DOD etc .
A little poem telling of her continuing care even though her children were grown up, waiting for them all to get home from work etc,
Folded over for all the years since 1932 ,it is now almost split in two.
She was only 60+ when she died.
I have stabilised it and it is with Family History stuff.
Paternal grandmother, a small bar brooch ,gold set with jet ,like a little tie pin but smaller.
There was her wedding ring but my sister had  that and it went when she was burgled.No value but sentimental,  it was only rolled gold ,but down to brass except for a little bit of gold inside.
All I have of my mother are two necklaces, Crystal, and Crystal and black beads but not jet ,a little cut glass pot with silver hall marked lid ,anchor,lion passant and a stylised m ,so Birmingham 1911.
She would have been 15, so obviously bought later I imagine.
Dad was not well enough for work for many years after being a POW in WW1
but then he did buy things ,they courted for about 14 years until he could work .1933.
It was probably second hand .
A cut glass vase , and some glass dishes that came out at Christmas etc.
Her mince pie trays , and the Spode Italian blue tea set got with tokens from Kensitas cigarettes, I added to it ,so now a twelve place setting dinner and tea service ,stuck/ crammed  in the ten place setting dishwasher I have never used!
I look at it sometimes and think,” Mum’s heart attack and Dad’s throat cancer!”
A handkerchief that was in her handbag ,at hospital when she died ,clean ,folded .
An ebony backed hand mirror  that  she looked in as do I now .

A few more things but nothing really big .
Ah well, you don’t forget people because you don’t have mementoes .
Viktoria.

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Re: Heirlooms rant
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 17 February 22 10:36 GMT (UK) »
Viktoria, the name under the picture of Andrew’s clock is “Slate Clock”.  ;D

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« Reply #24 on: Thursday 17 February 22 10:49 GMT (UK) »
Do you know! I did not see that , just the picture,it is there of course ,I see it now it has been pointed out to me!

So yes obtuse this morning!
Quite a regular occurrence these days,
Thanks  :-[
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« Reply #25 on: Thursday 17 February 22 12:38 GMT (UK) »
There are just couple of things I would have liked from my grandmother, no intrinsic value but precious to me.

Two photographs - one of her as a little girl, so early 1900s, and one of her as a young woman, a studio photo taken with her in full flapper regalia.

They were taken by my aunts then boyfriend, who thought that as they were old photos they were worth something. Now lost forever.
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« Reply #26 on: Thursday 17 February 22 22:21 GMT (UK) »
Very often family possessions have a different meaning and value to different generations.

We have an old police whistle from c 1910s. It belonged to my OH's G Uncle and was given to my late Pa in Law along with G Uncle's retirement watch.
Pa in Law treasured it as he knew G Uncle well and was very fond of him.

and the reason that we treasure it is different.  We have special memories of my late Ma in law keeping it on the table by the telephone and if she got some eejit cold calling her to attempt to badger her into subscribing to/purchasing  something she neither wanted nor needed, she would blow it full blast down the phone just prior to hanging up :-)

Oh how I loved my Ma in Law - a woman who never suffered fools gladly or otherwise :-)

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