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Lily Hilton Parkinson
« on: Tuesday 08 February 22 19:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi. I'm looking to find my great grandmother Lily Hilton Parkinson (she married James Brown Grundy on 1st May 1915 in Abram, Lancashire). I know she was born on 18th January 1891 and her father was an Edward Parkinson (from the marriage register), but know virtually nothing else and cannot find her on any census records or a birth record for her (or James!).
Is anyone else looking for either Lily or James Grundy? If so, can you give me any pointers please?
Any help much appreciated.
Thanks, Sarah

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Re: Lily Hilton Parkinson
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 08 February 22 21:06 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat

Could she have born as Hilton - illegitimate - and her mother then married a Parkinson?

There is this birth - no mothers maiden name indicating it was illegitimate

HILTON, LILY        -     
GRO Reference: 1891  M Quarter in WIGAN  Volume 08C  Page 163
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: Lily Hilton Parkinson
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 08 February 22 21:07 GMT (UK) »
James was living in Brynn Gates and Lily in 209 Lily Lane , Bamfurlong when they married
Marriage: 1 May 1915 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England
James Brown Grundy - 29, Fireman, Bachelor, Brynn-Gates
Lily Hilton Parkinson - 24, Servant, Spinster, 209 Lily Lane Bamfurlong
    Groom's Father: William Beech, Collier
    Bride's Father: Edward Parkinson, Grocer
    Witness: John Parkinson; Maggie Leary
    Married by Banns by: W. Wentworth Scott Vicar

bit of info on where they were from
https://www.my-history.co.uk/acatalog/Bamfurlong---Bryn-Gates-1906-LAN101.04.html
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Lily Hilton Parkinson
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 08 February 22 21:16 GMT (UK) »
Clever girl Carole
Lancsbmd
                        Mothers
                        Maiden
                        Name
HILTON   Lily   HILTON   1891   Upholland   Wigan & Leigh   UPHL/31/345
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford


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Re: Lily Hilton Parkinson
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 08 February 22 21:20 GMT (UK) »
Marriage of Edward Parkinson in Wigan to Fanny Jones or Jane Shannon in 1892

JOhn parkinson b Wigan 1893, mmn Jones

on 1911 there's a 20 yr old Lily Parkinson b Upholland living in Bryn with uncle and aunt Richard and Alice Finch  (added: occupation domestic servant)

Alice's maiden name is Jones

1901 - family found (but no Lily). Edward is a brewer's carter

Fanny had a previous child Benjamin c1886


think this is wrong

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Re: Lily Hilton Parkinson
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 08 February 22 21:27 GMT (UK) »
So maybe ignore that Lily

1891 - Upholland. All born ther

Ann Hilton    66    Head    Seamstress
William Hilton   32    Son     Coal miner
Mary J Hilton    20    Granddaughter
Thomas White    12    Grandson
Lilley Hilton    3/12    Great-Granddaughter

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Re: Lily Hilton Parkinson
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 08 February 22 22:05 GMT (UK) »
No logical Hilton/Parkinson marriage

Note that James Brown Grundy's father was William Beech??

She may have been fostered by a Parkinson family but there is no Edward Parkinson with an occ of grocer
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: Lily Hilton Parkinson
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 09 February 22 05:56 GMT (UK) »
Possible 1911, Lily Parkinson down as niece, with Richard & Alice Finch. Her POB, Upholland

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWY6-MHS

Maybe the birth cert would be helpful, confirm name of mother.

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Lily Hilton Parkinson
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 09 February 22 06:56 GMT (UK) »
Another possible for 1901, Maybe Mary Jane Hilton was her mother?

All born Upholland

1901 - Alma Hill, Upholland
Thomas Ashurst   55, gen lab for urban district council
Mary J Ashurst   31, wife
Lilly Ashurst   10, dau
Maggie Ashurst   3, "

ASHURST, MAGGIE    mmn   HILTON 
GRO Reference: 1897  S Quarter in WIGAN  Volume 08C  Page 152

Marriages Dec 1892   same page
ASHURST    Thomas        Wigan    8c   177    
Hilton    Mary Jane        Wigan    8c   177   

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland