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1921 Census and Annie's back in town creating more confusion.
« on: Friday 28 January 22 10:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi all.
Well, I spent my £3.50 and downloaded the '21 census sheet for my infamous gtgrandma, Annie.
Turns out she's still living in Leeds at No.6 Woodbine Place. On the '11 census she was at no.22 so she's moved down the street. This house (no.6) is the last house in the terrace and she has a visitor staying.
Under 'employment' she has written for herself "householder" and her visitor "no occupation".
The enumerator has crossed out both and, underneath each, has written "not occupied for living".
Has anyone come across this or does anyone have a possible explanation as to what could possibly be going on.
Yorkshire: Riley, Holdstock, Smith, Turner, Pearson, Bailey, Swift.
Devon: Spry, Gimblett, Sleep, Wyvell(Wyvill), Fox, Kingsbear.
Lancashire; Squires (Swires ?).
Norfolk/Suffolk: Auston, Bedwell, Crooks, Charlish.
Essex: Auston,.

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Re: 1921 Census and Annie's back in town creating more confusion.
« Reply #1 on: Friday 28 January 22 12:56 GMT (UK) »
Possibly to do with the coding of occupations - is it code X perhaps? "not gainfully occupied" ?

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/world-records/1921-census---occupation-codes
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Re: 1921 Census and Annie's back in town creating more confusion.
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 January 22 13:05 GMT (UK) »
Look at the instructions on page 2 (with address) of the census.
The phrase "Not occupied for a living" appears in para. 8


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Re: 1921 Census and Annie's back in town creating more confusion.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 January 22 13:16 GMT (UK) »
ahha, Tony. You've got it.
The enumerator has missed out the "a" leaving the insinuation that the property was not used for living in.
So, basically, the property is not used for making a living ie boarding house, hotel, bakery, etc.
Is that right, Tony?
Yorkshire: Riley, Holdstock, Smith, Turner, Pearson, Bailey, Swift.
Devon: Spry, Gimblett, Sleep, Wyvell(Wyvill), Fox, Kingsbear.
Lancashire; Squires (Swires ?).
Norfolk/Suffolk: Auston, Bedwell, Crooks, Charlish.
Essex: Auston,.


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Re: 1921 Census and Annie's back in town creating more confusion.
« Reply #4 on: Friday 28 January 22 13:27 GMT (UK) »
I interpret "not occupied for living" refers to a person not a dwelling and that the person has no occupation or "none". (i.e. living off private means)


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Re: 1921 Census and Annie's back in town creating more confusion.
« Reply #5 on: Friday 28 January 22 14:08 GMT (UK) »
It is about the person's lack of an occupation, nothing to do with the property.
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Re: 1921 Census and Annie's back in town creating more confusion.
« Reply #6 on: Friday 28 January 22 15:30 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Tonepad and ShaunJ.
So the enumerator has just crossed out what she wrote and put it in the accepted terminology.

I was taking the word 'occupied' as being meaning the property was occupied. But then, today's interpretations can be a country mile from what was intended a hundred years ago I suppose.
That's my excuse anyway.  ::)

Thanks again both of you.
Yorkshire: Riley, Holdstock, Smith, Turner, Pearson, Bailey, Swift.
Devon: Spry, Gimblett, Sleep, Wyvell(Wyvill), Fox, Kingsbear.
Lancashire; Squires (Swires ?).
Norfolk/Suffolk: Auston, Bedwell, Crooks, Charlish.
Essex: Auston,.

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Re: 1921 Census and Annie's back in town creating more confusion.
« Reply #7 on: Friday 28 January 22 23:19 GMT (UK) »
Turns out she's still living in Leeds at No.6 Woodbine Place. On the '11 census she was at no.22 so she's moved down the street. This house (no.6) is the last house in the terrace and she has a visitor staying.
Might the street have been renumbered ?  My wife's abode in Cardiff was changed from 50 to 110 some time in the 1950s because a large private block on one side of the road had made opposite numberings far out of kilter.
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Re: 1921 Census and Annie's back in town creating more confusion.
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 29 January 22 10:17 GMT (UK) »
Yorkshire Post & Leeds Intelligencer, 10 Jun 1911

Advertised For Sale by Auction -
"THE FREEHOLD THROUGH DWELLING HOUSE, being No 22, Woodbine Place, in the occupation of Mrs Auston Smith, - net annual rental £19 10s."